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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:40 PM
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200,000 war veterans homeless in US
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 07:09 PM by G_j
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=29803

200,000 war veterans homeless in US


300,000 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans file disability claims with US federal government.


PACIFICA – For six years of war in Iraq, the Bush administration has done absolutely nothing to take care of the hundreds of thousands of wounded veterans coming home, said Aaron Glantz, a journalist who has been covering the stories of US military vets returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

"We’ve had people brought into the VA, turned away, who have committed suicide after coming back from the war with post-traumatic stress disorder. We’ve had people redeployed to Iraq, even after they were diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. We have 300,000 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans coming home with traumatic brain injury, physical brain damage. We have 300,000 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans who have filed disability claims with the federal government," Glantz told Democracy Now! on Thursday.

"In many cases, there is no medical services at all, because remember that many people serving in Iraq and Afghanistan come from rural communities where the VA doesn’t even have a hospital," he explained.

There are 200,000 homeless war veterans in the United States.

"On every night, 200,000 people who have put on the uniform and served this country sleep homeless on the streets," said Glantz.

"Imagine that you come home from Iraq with post-traumatic stress disorder, a mental wound, or traumatic brain injury, physical brain damage often caused by a roadside bomb. The first thing that you have to do just to get in the door at the VA is to fill out a twenty-six-page form where you substantiate exactly how you were wounded, where you get letters of support from your battle buddies, from your commanders. You subpoena your own Army records, often with the help of your congressperson. And you present to the VA a gigantic claim folder, which they then sit on for an extended period of time. And that’s just to get in the door. So we take our veterans when they’re most wounded and most vulnerable and exploit them by making them fill out a mound of paperwork just to get in the door," noted Glantz.



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http://www.alternet.org/election08/116721/did_you_know_200,000_vets_are_sleeping_on_the_streets/


Did You Know 200,000 Vets Are Sleeping on the Streets?
By Aaron Glantz, New America Media. Posted January 3, 2009.

America's promise to "Support the Troops" ends the moment they take off the uniform and try to make the transition to civilian life.

SAN FRANCISCO - Roy Lee Brantley shivers in the cold December morning as he waits in line for food outside the Ark of Refuge mission, which sits amid warehouses and artists lofts a stone's throw from the skyscrapers of downtown San Francisco.
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On any given night 200,000 U.S. veterans sleep homeless on the streets of America. One out of every four people -- and one out of every three men -- sleeping in a car, in front of a shop door, or under a freeway overpass has worn a military uniform. Some like Brantley have been on the streets for years. Others are young and women returning home wounded from Iraq and Afghanistan, quickly slipping through the cracks.

For each of these homeless veterans, America's promise to "Support the Troops" ended the moment he or she took off the uniform and tried to make the difficult transition to civilian life. There, they encountered a hostile and cumbersome bureaucracy set up by the Department of Veterans Affairs. In a best-case scenario, a wounded veteran must wait six months to hear back from the VA. Those who appeal a denial have to wait an average of four and a half years for their answer. In the six months leading up to March 31st of this year, nearly 1,500 veterans died waiting to learn if their disability claims would be approved by the government.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:49 PM
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1. IT's inexcusable for ANY"ONE to be homeless in the richest country in the world!
:grr:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:53 PM
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2. didn't we just flush a trillion plus dollars
down the toilet?
while people can't afford a roof over their head?

inexcusable and inhuman
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:57 PM
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3. Greater need to pay attention to the billions and trillions and almost
forget about the millions.

And the analysts are already warning we might need more money for the banks.

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shintao Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:26 PM
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4. VA claims is a tough road through hell
I came home in 1968 from nam, combat vet, wounded twice. When I first filed for PTSD in 1968 they denied there was anything wrong with me, because PTSD was not recognized until 1972. I filed claims, went into depression and drop claims, got mad and filed again for 37 years, and finally got the DAV's lawyer for my claim. I went from 30% disability when I last worked in 1990, to 100% unemployable disability in 3 months (2007).

IF you are a vet, get a lawyer to fight the VA for you. Most service organizations have lawyers. I though I could do it myself. I wrong, and my box of files weighed 26 pounds when I ordered them from the VA. About 2 foot high stack.

Here are some examples from a vet friendly site that can also assist any veteran in his claims for free. The VA is not your friend.

Here are some current examples from my friends site;

Applied end of May for Pre-sep, retirement date 13 Nov. 2008. Did C&P in Sep. 3 total, 2 more in Oct. Claim went to rating Oct. 17th, Rated and decided(stamped) Nov. 17th, received in mail Nov. 22 100% P&T, IU. CH. 35 benefits established. 34 days after retirement, 5 months, 19 days after initial claim. And received rating on 12 different injuries, 0% SC on another 8 items. Only about 500 pages of medical records they had to go through.
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I am a 100% service connected Veteran. my intinial claim was filed in 2/11/02, and refiled on 5/02 because the DAV lost claim. After that in 2/2006 I was award 60% and was informed in the award package that if I was " unemployable", then benefits could be increased to 100%. I received 100% in 4/2007.
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This polls data

How long after application to my first decision letter?
0 - 6 months = 91
6 months to 1 year = 157 vets
1 year -2 years = 94 vets
2 years - 3 years = 26 vets
3 years - 4 years = 16 vets
4 years - 5 years = 3 vets
5 years and above = 19 vets

VETERAN HELP HERE!!
( http://www.hadit.com/ )
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:49 PM
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5. thank you!
amazing... :-(
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 09:27 PM
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6. Our "reps" in DC should feel deeply ashamed for the treatment of veterans.
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 09:27 PM by vickiss
The VA should have shame for the service stats at your link.

No veteran should ever have to be destitute. It exacerbates the effects of brain illnesses, inc. PTSD, toxins tested, psychological experiments, depression, etc.

The way our veterans are treated is a war crime, imho. Hell, the way our current troops are treated is a crime.



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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:44 PM
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7. here's hoping Gen. Shinseki turns things around
a tall task, the VA is quite rotten...
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 11:13 AM
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11. I can say I actually hold hope of this happening, first time in 8 years.
GOBAMA!
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 12:56 AM
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8. Many Vets got a pay cut thanks to Congress and W 4 years ago

They took away overtime from Vets after they leave the armed forces. IF what you were trained to do in the forces relates to your new career, employers DO NOT HAVE TO PAY YOU OVERTIME. They can pay you straight time. Union contracts for overtime are not effected.

So few comments on Vets on our board?

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 07:10 AM
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9. America ABUSES her veterans SHAMEFULLY!
The soldier's mother signed up to participate in this thread about her son's experience.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3683711


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 07:47 AM
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10. Why do Republicons HATE our American veterans?
Edited on Sun Jan-18-09 07:50 AM by SpiralHawk
I have always felt it is because so many republicon 'leaders' -- like George AWOL Bush, Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney, and draft dodgers Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, etc. -- are out and out chickenhawks.

It embarasses the Hell out of the Republicon chickenhawks that honorable veterans exist. So republicons talk a lot of bullshit 'patriotic-sounding' talk to cover their asses, but then republicons actually vote, and act, and treat real veterans like shit.

Just more republicon hypocrisy, like their claim to be 'conservative' when they are actually radical-fringe borrow-and-spend wankers.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 11:27 AM
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12. Us Viet Nam veterans "paved the way" for these guys ... and virtually NOTHING was done.
Edited on Sun Jan-18-09 11:31 AM by TahitiNut
I found myself effectively homeless in early 1970, living one night in my car and a week at the YMCA and another week at the cheapest motel I could find. The 'home' with my 'wife' became untenable - she had no interest whatsoever in working it out, after being with her lover the night I returned. (I won't go into details of how far off the edge I went.)

I was 'lucky' ... I had a job and a family that I could have gone begging to. I suppose. Maybe. I quite frankly didn't know if I was going to hold onto my sanity. But I was VERY 'lucky' ... I had far more than many.

I had no idea where to turn ... so I moved in with a fraternity brother whose wife had just left him. Funny that college fraternity brothers provided what little networked support I was able to access. Just "frat boys." Even then, I was a "leper" to most ... both for being a Viet Nam veteran and for being a cuckold (there's no equivalent term for females).

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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 11:36 AM
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13. Stats from the VA
Overview of Homelessness


About one-third of the adult homeless population have served their country in the Armed Services. Current population estimates suggest that about 154,000 veterans (male and female) are homeless on any given night and perhaps twice as many experience homelessness at some point during the course of a year. Many other veterans are considered near homeless or at risk because of their poverty, lack of support from family and friends, and dismal living conditions in cheap hotels or in overcrowded or substandard housing.

Right now, the number of homeless male and female Vietnam era veterans is greater than the number of service persons who died during that war -- and a small number of Desert Storm veterans are also appearing in the homeless population. Atlthough many homeless veterans served in combat in Vietnam and suffer from PTSD, at this time, epidemiologic studies do not suggest that there is a causal connection between military service, service in Vietnam, or exposure to combat and homelessness among veterans. Family background, access to support from family and friends, and various personal characteristics (rather than military service) seem to be the stronger indicators of risk of homelessness.

Almost all homeless veterans are male (about three percent are women), the vast majority are single, and most come from poor, disadvantaged backgrounds. Homeless veterans tend to be older and more educated than homeless non-veterans. But similar to the general population of homeless adult males, about 45% of homeless veterans suffer from mental illness and (with considerable overlap) slightly more than 70% suffer from alcohol or other drug abuse problems. Roughly 56% are African American or Hispanic.

http://www1.va.gov/homeless/page.cfm?pg=1
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 02:15 PM
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14. "Almost all homeless veterans are male (about three percent are women), " I understand there is a
difference with the Iraq war.. MORE WOMEN are coming back with PTSD than men, and that means more liklihood of homelessness.

The mess we have made..... :cry: :grr: :cry:

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 09:39 PM
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16. and still, whole families are effected!
spouses and children, parents, and 30 plus years after Vietnam, Vets still suffer PTSD, the ramifications are immeasurable.
the only way to face this is head on, NOW!
Take the funds from the Military Industrial Complex, the contractors and banksters.
and take care of the people.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 06:59 PM
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15. Past their sell-by date. "Sold down the river" once. Probably no longer
of sufficiently merchantable quality for a second sale, or they'd be in Iraq or Afghanisan when they're as old as 70.

Oddly enough, the retired British general, Sir Michael Jackson and Colonel Tim Collins are trying to get some action from NuLab(c) to help the war veterans here in the UK. They're not taking prisoners, either, by the sound of it, describing their treatment as a betrayal of the country's heroes, and listing the requirements of elementary decency for the way in which they should be treated.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/01/18/hom...

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