Can They Install A Big, Loud Horn on Airplanes To Scare The Geese Away?

[Yavin4]

I know that this may be a dumb question, but wouldn't that work?

[RoyGBiv]

1. Louder than a jet engine, you mean?

[Poll_Blind]

8. Beat me to it!

:)

PB

[Yavin4]

14. Maybe Not Louder, But A Different Sound Equally As Loud

Or some sort of sound that scare the geese away. It could be a high pitched sound that only the geese hear.

It just seems to me that sound is the only way to fend off the geese.

[Poll_Blind]

33. I only mean this half-jokingly but if they painted jets like BIG m-f-ing owls....

...that might help.

Of course there would be A LOT more bird poop raining down if that were the case.

PB

[jmowreader]

53. You mean, something like this?

[dflprincess]

36. They'll probably just get use to it

It does no good to use the car horn on the geese that block the driveway where I work. They'll turn around and look at you and you just know if they had fingers they'd be flipping you off.

[Tutonic]

47. How bout Ann Coulter's voice?? Just a thought.

[Virginia Dare]

2. They use cannon fire at some airports..

I know National in Arlington VA (D.C.) is one that uses it.

[rcrush]

3. I dont think it would help when the plane slams into them at 300 mph

They already have horns and cannons on the runway to scare them off but I dont theres much you can do in mid air.

[Uben]

4. Honk a horn?

Hmmmm? Don't geese honk? That might be mistaken for a mating call! LOL

[bahrbearian]

6. You beat me too it.

[bahrbearian]

5. One that goes "Honk, Honk"?

[Yavin4]

9. It Doesn't Have To Honk per se

It could make some other noise. Maybe a high pitched noise that only geese can hear.

[saltpoint]

7. I favor a sign in front of airplanes that says, "Hey, you damn geese, get

out of the way!"

[lonestarnot]

10. Snort!

:spray: ROFLMAO! :rofl:

[asdjrocky]

41. Too long since I've seen you. Hey OC, how's it going?

[saltpoint]

44. Hey there, asdjrocky.

I'm holding on as well as can be expected.

I hope all is well your way. Good to see you.

[Orsino]

48. We've put up the same sort of signs for * for eight years...

...and he's shown no inclination to read or comply, either. Geese aren't much smarter.

[saltpoint]

49. LOL! Still, I think you're right to say geese ARE smarter than Bush.

it's a shame they still aren't smart enough to read!

[ogneopasno]

11. I'm sure NYC would love to have planes WITH HORNS taking off and landing every 50 seconds.

[CreekDog]

12. I live near an airport

Hell no. I mean come on.

[dysfunctional press]

23. self-delete

wrong place

[shraby]

13. Make sure there are a lot of bread crumbles on

the ground for the geese before taking off.

[saltpoint]

15. Then passengers would complain that the airlines were feeding the

geese more than they get in those little bags of peanuts.

Law suits when ensue.

[Rabrrrrrr]

16. Airports already do a lot to keep birds away -- JFK uses falcons,

as well as firecracker like devices. I'm sure other airports are also using falcons, probably dogs, too.

Many airports already use loud sounds and whatnot to keep birds away.

For the most part, the roar of the airplane itself is enough.

[CreekDog]

17. They should put one of these on each wing

it works on geese too right?

[dysfunctional press]

20. beat me to it...but i was thinking they'd go on the nose.

[saltpoint]

18. Some genetic combo of a border collie and Canadian goose to

perform sky-herding on errant geese flocks -- a border goose.

[conscious evolution]

19. Have you seen

the thing they paint on the center cone on jet engines that sorta looks like an eye?
An A/P mechanic I worked with years ago told me that it was supposed to scare birds away.Said it was supposed to look like some kind of predator that the birds steer clear of.

I have no idea if this is true but it seemed reasonable enough an explanation to me.
If its not true,anyone know why they do it?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

21. Most airplanes are travelling above the speed of sound most of the time.

So the plane would hit the geese before the honk did.

For take off and landing, possibly, but I doubt a horn would be scarier than a plane.

[Yavin4]

25. What if Before the Plane Travels Above The Speed of Sound...

The plane emits some sort of sound or pulse that scares away the geese.

[DireStrike]

28. I don't think that's true

However, they are really loud. A horn would probably not do much.

[TroglodyteScholar]

34. Where do you live?

Somewhere with the transportation of the future?

[RoyGBiv]

35. Uh, no ...

The speed of sound at sea level is roughly 767mph.

The cruising speed of most commercial airliners tops out at something over 500mph.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

38. Disclaimer: it appears I am talking nonsense.

My apologies; all I can say in my defence is that I'm a mathematician, not a physicist, and planes travelling at the speed of sound is something I remember coming up when studying the mathematics of waves.

[RoyGBiv]

39. It happens ...

A mathematician, eh? My friend Jim would understand quite well. :)

FWIW, and if memory serves, the Concord and the Tupolev were the only supersonic passenger jets to see wide service. The Concord was in fact used in a lot of examples about such things.

[Hanse]

46. !

:rofl:

[originalpckelly]

50. Not exactly, doing that at low altitude would cause the skin to melt.

At low altitude they're significantly slower. It's only when they're higher in the atmosphere that the air is low enough in density to allow the plane to efficiently travel at higher speeds.

[chucktaylor]

62. Have you ever heard the term "supersonic" or "sonic booms?"

No current passenger plane flies supersonic.

This post should be moved to the science forum. Maybe something will rub off on some of the posters.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

22. Dupe, delete.,

[cynatnite]

24. like deer whistles on cars and trucks? n/t

[dysfunctional press]

26. why not get rid of wetlands around airports?

:shrug:
they don't belong together. but because nobody would want to live or work there, and the epa requires them to be somewhere- they figure it's a good way to kill two birds with one stone- and a helluva lot more with airplanes.

[Donnachaidh]

30. how about getting the AIRPORTS out of the wetlands?

That would be far better than destroying natural habitat.

[originalpckelly]

51. How about getting airports off the planet?

I mean, who needs that noise? We should be using high speed rail for regional travel...and get over ourselves when it comes traveling longer distances.

You can't power a jet with electricity from the ground at the current time, so it'd be better for the environment.

[Pavulon]

63. I would blow my brains out

sitting on a train from ny to san diego. Trains stop, change engines etc. I tried that once up the east coast just to see, it sucked, even with a private car. It was almost as much as a first class ticket.

You have over a 250mph speed difference in the fastest train and the slowest jet.

[Skip Intro]

60. Amen.

[XemaSab]

61. AMEN!

Many airports are built in or near wetlands.

San Francisco, LA, SeaTac, Anchorage, San Diego, and probably many others are built on or near wetlands.

I worked on bird strike hazards at the Santa Barbara Airport, and it's built on a big estuary. You'd have to fill in a LOT of wetland area in order to keep most of the birds away, and then where would the birds go? All their other habitat is gone. :(

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

27. ...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Donnachaidh]

29. have you eaver HEARD a flock of Canadian Geese?

They make LOUD sound like a whisper. :eyes:

[sarge43]

31. It might work temporarily until the birds figure out it's no threat

and it wouldn't take them long to figure.

[saltpoint]

32. Why not put up a very tall net on the border of the U.S. and Canada and

tackle this problem at its source?

Those damn Canadian geese need to understand they can't just fly into U.S. air space and bring down commercial jets.

[HubertHeaver]

55. Position goose hunters around the airports. Sort of like AA battery

only they would be AG battery (anti-goose)

[saltpoint]

56. "First sight or sound of those feathery bastards, shoot to kill!"

[TwilightGardener]

37. Isn't there some sort of metal screen they can put in front of the intakes

that is shaped in such a way that could deflect the birds somehow, without affecting the engine performance? Sort of like the old "cow catchers" on locomotives...

[slackmaster]

40. The planes go so fast that it wouldn't make any difference

The only solution to the problem of geese is to eat more of them.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

42. Maby this?

but really bigger!!!!

[NutmegYankee]

43. Reaction time would be too slow.

By the time the pilot sees the bird and honks the horn, the bird is going through the Cuisinart.

[Hanse]

45. lol

:rofl:

[Puzzler]

52. I'm guessing, but probably the plane's speed...

... would be far to fast for birds to be able to react to effectively.

[guns4 all]

54. think..

so, you want to put a horn out everytime a JET takes off??

think about that.. a HORN that's louder than a JET ENGINE ??

oh, boy,,, and these are the people who vote....

[Phentex]

57. HAPPY INAUGURATION DAY TO YOU!!!!!

Hope your head doesn't explode! :)

[Evoman]

58. I have a better idea....create a little seat on the outside of the plane in front of the engine.

Then have a ninja sit in it and get him to use his nunchucks to hit the geese out of the way of the engine.

[XemaSab]

59. Geese do not interpret the plane as something dangerous

and I don't think they know how fast the plane is going.

I don't see how that would work. :shrug:

[Fire Walk With Me]

64. What if the geese honk back?

[Aviation Pro]

65. No, but the way they handled it at Denver International Airport....

...was to remove the food source that geese favor (mostly grass). The perimeter surrounding DIA is virtually goose free and allows aircraft to climb out without encountering the large flocks of geese that migrate into Colorado.