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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:41 PM
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"We're all neo-cons now." Chris Matthews
This bit from FAIR is just over a year old, but still worth remembering.

'The Final Word Is Hooray!'
Remembering the Iraq War's Pollyanna pundits

3/15/06

"Iraq Is All but Won; Now What?"
(Los Angeles Times headline, 4/10/03)


"Now that the combat phase of the war in Iraq is officially over, what begins is a debate throughout the entire U.S. government over America's unrivaled power and how best to use it."
(CBS reporter Joie Chen, 5/4/03)


"Congress returns to Washington this week to a world very different from the one members left two weeks ago. The war in Iraq is essentially over and domestic issues are regaining attention."
(NPR's Bob Edwards, 4/28/03)


"Tommy Franks and the coalition forces have demonstrated the old axiom that boldness on the battlefield produces swift and relatively bloodless victory. The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly shattered skeptics' complaints."
(Fox News Channel's Tony Snow, 4/13/03)


"The only people who think this wasn't a victory are Upper Westside liberals, and a few people here in Washington."
(Charles Krauthammer, Inside Washington, WUSA-TV, 4/19/03)


"We had controversial wars that divided the country. This war united the country and brought the military back."
(Newsweek's Howard Fineman--MSNBC, 5/7/03)


"We're all neo-cons now."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)


"The war was the hard part. The hard part was putting together a coalition, getting 300,000 troops over there and all their equipment and winning. And it gets easier. I mean, setting up a democracy is hard, but it is not as hard as winning a war."
(Fox News Channel's Fred Barnes, 4/10/03)


"Oh, it was breathtaking. I mean I was almost starting to think that we had become inured to everything that we'd seen of this war over the past three weeks; all this sort of saturation. And finally, when we saw that it was such a just true, genuine expression. It was reminiscent, I think, of the fall of the Berlin Wall. And just sort of that pure emotional expression, not choreographed, not stage-managed, the way so many things these days seem to be. Really breathtaking."
(Washington Post reporter Ceci Connolly, appearing on Fox News Channel on 4/9/03, discussing the pulling down of a Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad, an event later revealed to have been a U.S. military PSYOPS operation--Los Angeles Times, 7/3/04)


Mission Accomplished?

"The war winds down, politics heats up.... Picture perfect. Part Spider-Man, part Tom Cruise, part Ronald Reagan. The president seizes the moment on an aircraft carrier in the Pacific."
(PBS's Gwen Ifill, 5/2/03, on George W. Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech)


"We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 5/1/03)


"He looked like an alternatively commander in chief, rock star, movie star, and one of the guys."
(CNN's Lou Dobbs, on Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' speech, 5/1/03)


Neutralizing the Opposition

"Why don't the damn Democrats give the president his day? He won today. He did well today."
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)


"What's he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war went too well and it's over? I mean, don't these things sort of lose their--Isn't there a fresh date on some of these debate points?"
(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean--4/9/03)


"If image is everything, how can the Democratic presidential hopefuls compete with a president fresh from a war victory?"
(CNN's Judy Woodruff, 5/5/03)


"It is amazing how thorough the victory in Iraq really was in the broadest context..... And the silence, I think, is that it's clear that nobody can do anything about it. There isn't anybody who can stop him. The Democrats can't oppose--cannot oppose him politically."
(Washington Post reporter Jeff Birnbaum-- Fox News Channel, 5/2/03)


Nagging the "Naysayers"

"Now that the war in Iraq is all but over, should the people in Hollywood who opposed the president admit they were wrong?"
(Fox News Channel's Alan Colmes, 4/25/03)


"I doubt that the journalists at the New York Times and NPR or at ABC or at CNN are going to ever admit just how wrong their negative pronouncements were over the past four weeks."
(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/9/03)


"I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong' from some of the world's most elite journalists, politicians and Hollywood types.... I just wonder, who's going to be the first elitist to show the character to say: 'Hey, America, guess what? I was wrong'? Maybe the White House will get an apology, first, from the New York Times' Maureen Dowd. Now, Ms. Dowd mocked the morality of this war....

"Do you all remember Scott Ritter, you know, the former chief U.N. weapons inspector who played chief stooge for Saddam Hussein? Well, Mr. Ritter actually told a French radio network that -- quote, 'The United States is going to leave Baghdad with its tail between its legs, defeated.' Sorry, Scott. I think you've been chasing the wrong tail, again.

"Maybe disgraced commentators and politicians alike, like Daschle, Jimmy Carter, Dennis Kucinich, and all those others, will step forward tonight and show the content of their character by simply admitting what we know already: that their wartime predictions were arrogant, they were misguided and they were dead wrong. Maybe, just maybe, these self-anointed critics will learn from their mistakes. But I doubt it. After all, we don't call them 'elitists' for nothing."
(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/10/03)


"Over the next couple of weeks when we find the chemical weapons this guy was amassing, the fact that this war was attacked by the left and so the right was so vindicated, I think, really means that the left is going to have to hang its head for three or four more years."
(Fox News Channel's Dick Morris, 4/9/03)


"This has been a tough war for commentators on the American left. To hope for defeat meant cheering for Saddam Hussein. To hope for victory meant cheering for President Bush. The toppling of Mr. Hussein, or at least a statue of him, has made their arguments even harder to defend. Liberal writers for ideologically driven magazines like The Nation and for less overtly political ones like The New Yorker did not predict a defeat, but the terrible consequences many warned of have not happened. Now liberal commentators must address the victory at hand and confront an ascendant conservative juggernaut that asserts United States might can set the world right."
(New York Times reporter David Carr, 4/16/03)


"Well, the hot story of the week is victory.... The Tommy Franks-Don Rumsfeld battle plan, war plan, worked brilliantly, a three-week war with mercifully few American deaths or Iraqi civilian deaths.... There is a lot of work yet to do, but all the naysayers have been humiliated so far.... The final word on this is, hooray."
(Fox News Channel's Morton Kondracke, 4/12/03)

"Some journalists, in my judgment, just can't stand success, especially a few liberal columnists and newspapers and a few Arab reporters."
(CNN's Lou Dobbs, 4/14/03)

"Sean Penn is at it again. The Hollywood star takes out a full-page ad out in the New York Times bashing George Bush. Apparently he still hasn't figured out we won the war."
(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 5/30/03)


Cakewalk?

"This will be no war -- there will be a fairly brief and ruthless military intervention.... The president will give an order. will be rapid, accurate and dazzling.... It will be greeted by the majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring it on."
(Christopher Hitchens, in a 1/28/03 debate-- cited in the Observer, 3/30/03)


"I will bet you the best dinner in the gaslight district of San Diego that military action will not last more than a week. Are you willing to take that wager?"
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1/29/03)


"It won't take weeks. You know that, professor. Our military machine will crush Iraq in a matter of days and there's no question that it will."
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2/10/03)


"There's no way. There's absolutely no way. They may bomb for a matter of weeks, try to soften them up as they did in Afghanistan. But once the United States and Britain unleash, it's maybe hours. They're going to fold like that."
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2/10/03)


"He actually thought that he could stop us and win the debate worldwide. But he didn't--he didn't bargain on a two- or three week war. I actually thought it would be less than two weeks."
(NBC reporter Fred Francis, Chris Matthews Show, 4/13/03)


Weapons of Mass Destruction

NPR's Mara Liasson: Where there was a debate about whether or not Iraq had these weapons of mass destruction and whether we can find it...

Brit Hume: No, there wasn't. Nobody seriously argued that he didn't have them beforehand. Nobody.
(Fox News Channel, April 6, 2003)


"Speaking to the U.N. Security Council last week, Secretary of State Colin Powell made so strong a case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is in material breach of U.N. resolutions that only the duped, the dumb and the desperate could ignore it."
(Cal Thomas, syndicated column, 2/12/03)


"Saddam could decide to take Baghdad with him. One Arab intelligence officer interviewed by Newsweek spoke of 'the green mushroom' over Baghdad--the modern-day caliph bidding a grotesque bio-chem farewell to the land of the living alongside thousands of his subjects as well as his enemies. Saddam wants to be remembered. He has the means and the demonic imagination. It is up to U.S. armed forces to stop him before he can achieve notoriety for all time."
(Newsweek, 3/17/03)


"Chris, more than anything else, real vindication for the administration. One, credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction. Two, you know what? There were a lot of terrorists here, really bad guys. I saw them."
(MSNBC reporter Bob Arnot, 4/9/03)


"Even in the flush of triumph, doubts will be raised. Where are the supplies of germs and poison gas and plans for nukes to justify pre-emption? (Freed scientists will lead us to caches no inspectors could find.) What about remaining danger from Baathist torturers and war criminals forming pockets of resistance and plotting vengeance? (Their death wish is our command.)"
(New York Times' William Safire, 4/10/03)

CORRECTION

This advisory mistakenly included an out-of-context quote from William Raspberry’s April 14, 2003 Washington Post column. FAIR's advisory inaccurately presented Raspberry’s column as an example of overly optimistic pundit commentary about the invasion of Iraq. Contrary to FAIR’s presentation, Raspberry’s column called attention to and rejected the same sort of premature triumphalism and marginalization of critics that was the subject of FAIR's media advisory. FAIR should have presented the Raspberry column as an exceptional example of a media figure challenging the conventional wisdom early in the Iraq War.

FAIR sincerely regrets the error and offers an apology to William Raspberry and to our readers.

Also in the advisory, the Tony Snow item originally dated 4/27/03 has been corrected to 4/13/03.






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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:44 PM
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1. Thanks, and I especially liked
the bill krysol quote that Franken played almost every day. That it was pop psychology that Shia and Sunnis couldn't get along.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:54 PM
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7. Hitchens even gave the chimp his best quote.
"Bring it on".

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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:49 PM
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2. WOW!
Thanks for that. O'Liely should be hit in the face with his comments daily!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:51 PM
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3. Must have been a major run on Kool-Aid during that time.
Matthews current comments on the war are pathetic when you look at how he was cheering madly for his idol and this war back then.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:54 PM
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6. He thought the Iraq invasion was the best idea anyone ever had
His piddly pretensions that he was 'against it from the beginning' make me want to throw up.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:46 PM
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21. And NOW he delights in telling guests that he NEVER supported the war..
Sez.. he was ALWAYS against it..

Media DOES this, folks.. Everything's
just a story" to them. War is the apex of this game.. They get many bites of the apple.

the run up to war is nailbitingly exciting TV
the war itself is grotesquely interesting
the injured "badguys" & the bombs are tantalizingly re-run-able..
the trials that spin out of a war are always good for some new viewers

and then when the whole thing turns to shit on a stick, they can gleefully UN-DO any prior support, and do "hard-hitting" investigative pieces about how WRONG the whole thing is..

and with enough time having, passed, they always get away with it.

some people like us online find their words and fling them back at them, but WE do not have daily television time, so we are "just a few "disgruntled wacko hippies" who "find fault " with everything..

As long as THEY have the microphones & cameras, and there are more people watching/listening to THEM, than us.....well... "they" always have the last laugh:(
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:12 PM
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45. Eurasia is at war with Oceana.
Eurasia has always been at war with Oceana.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:51 PM
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4. He's a freakin' prophet.


NOT.





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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:53 PM
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5. Oh these are delicious
What galls me the most is that all these idiots still have their positions or were even promoted and those who were right have been marginalized and we never hear from them
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:55 PM
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8. Don't forget...
"Women really like this war." - Chris Matthews :puke:

More from Howard Kurtz (Yeah, Howard Kurtz).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/03/20/BL2006032000397_pf.html
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:59 PM
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9. Shall we send them all crows and a knife and fork?
:evilgrin:
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:01 PM
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10. If only they had been right!!
3000 + would still be alive.
25000 + would still have all their body parts.
And the treasury would be have $500 + billion less debt.
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:40 PM
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18. Let's not forget...
That hundreds of thousands of Iraqis would still be alive, and millions wouldn't have had to mourn the death of countless loved ones.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:42 PM
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20. Indeed
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:04 PM
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11. Also don't miss "The Many Man-Crushes of Chris Matthews":
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x479112
The Many Man-Crushes of Chris Matthews (by Eric Alterman for the Nation)

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:08 PM
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31. Matthews needs to join ChimpFluffers Anonymous and take the 12 steps
He's going to have a lot of company in that organization among former and now reptentent ChimpFluffers before this is through.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:56 AM
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56. Thanks for this post.
Tweety tells us now that he was always against Bush's war, but these quotes don't sound like someone in opposition.

I do remember that Pat Buchanan was opposed. He and Bill Press had a Crossfire style show called "Buchanan and Press" on MSNBC after Tweety's that was canned. I think maybe because they both agreed the war was a bad move. Now Buchanan sounds like he thinks we should stay.

I never though I would find anything good to say about Poppy. He knew better than to march into Baghdad. You get there and say, "Now what do we do?"

My opinion at the time still holds. Once you get rid of Saddam, who is in charge? Won't you end up with the same kind of leader -- Same game, different name? I still think that will happen when we leave. Staying is just delaying the inevitable

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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:07 PM
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12. I absolutely love this post!
I especially love to see the glowing words of praise from the likes of Scarborough, Dobbs, Fineman and others who have since (long since) jumped off the Bush Bandwagon. Those of us who knew this was an immoral and illegal invasion and occupation from the gitgo - us 'upper west side liberals' - can sleep the sleep of the just.

Fuckin' A.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:20 PM
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14. Yep this is a keeper
bookmarked and recommended
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:35 AM
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55. Especially Matthews.
I can't remember who he was talking with on his show one day this week, but the guest said that the media did its part to beat the war drums and Matthews said, "Not me! Not me! I WAS NEVER for this war!"

So very, very FULL OF SHIT.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:07 PM
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13. Thanks n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:22 PM
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15. + "USA! USA! USA!" Ann Currey onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln
on the day the Chickenhawk flew in for his photo-op

She actually lead a cheer with some Navy guys.

Amazing. Oh no it isn't it is all of the people sited on this thread's fault that the public was so uninformed. WE took to the streets in the millions to tell them THIS IS A HUGE MISTAKE! DON'T BELIEVE THEM THEY ARE LIARS!!!

Millions
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:24 PM
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16. Really effin' stupid comment on Matthew's part. Hope they put it on his tombstone.
That'd be funny.

I mean he is supposed to be a journalist right?

I was never, was never going to be a neo-con, no matter WHAT happened in Iraq. How dare he speak for me.


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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:38 PM
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17. great. this is definitely worth a bookmark! kand r
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:40 PM
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19. Oh, no, Chris. I was never a neo-con.
I was a 10 percenter and, um, CORRECT.

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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:33 PM
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34. yep! This was a misadventure from day one
and there were enough of us saying it out loud, but we were labeled "unpatriotic", sympathizers, misguided, etc.

This is why I have absolutely no sympathy for those who now say they were 'misled'. Guess what? We all were, but some of engaged our brains and saw beyond the propaganda.

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:49 PM
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22. We're all republicans now = Garrison Keillor
:kick:
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:53 PM
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23. An upper west side liberal kick! n/t
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:55 PM
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24. Fred Barnes couldn't have been more wrong. I can't even believe he thought
that way when things were looking up. Killing people is easy; changing minds is hard.

"The war was the hard part. The hard part was putting together a coalition, getting 300,000 troops over there and all their equipment and winning. And it gets easier. I mean, setting up a democracy is hard, but it is not as hard as winning a war."
(Fox News Channel's Fred Barnes, 4/10/03)
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:59 PM
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25. Heh!!! I love the quote that says Bush is part "Spider Man"
I guess that gives me a chance to to my J. Jonah Jameson impression:

"SPIDERBUSH IS A MENACE!!!!!"
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:42 PM
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26. Lordy..how sad and wretched is the press..Murrow must be spinning in his grave....
Thank you for posting this... bookmarked for sure k& r



INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT INCARCERATE :patriot:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:26 PM
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27. reading this post....
is making my ears bleed....
cacophony
1. a loud harsh or strident noise
2. loud confusing disagreeable sounds
3. harsh discordance of sound; dissonance: a cacophony of hoots, cackles, and wails.
4. a discordant and meaningless mixture of sounds
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=cacophony
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 09:17 PM
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28. Meanwhile, Operation Mockingbird chirps along
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 09:18 PM by EVDebs
All of these talking heads (almost as full of s$%&t as the porcelain kind) need to be taken to task. Thanks to the original poster for putting this list of quotes together. FlDem5, you've been faithful over a little, your reward will be great.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 09:21 PM
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29. Has O'Lielly paid up on his wager yet ?
I will bet you the best dinner in the gaslight district of San Diego that military action will not last more than a week. Are you willing to take that wager?"
(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1/29/03)
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 09:43 PM
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30. OK, all you talking heads....We're waiting for an apology....
We, the people, who were against this from the beginning from whom you insisted an apology because we were so wrong.

Thanks, FLDem5, for posting these. I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I read those ridiculous and almost incoherent stream-of-consciousness remarks by Chris Matthews. I think he gets off thinking he can get away with saying the most inane things on TV. I've got news for him; everybody else is not in love with the sound of his voice the way that he is.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:16 PM
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32. These are priceless!!
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:20 PM
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33. Many thanks for the post and the link
Earlier this week Matthews was quoting himself from four years ago in an effort to prove he was against the occupation from the first.

My head nearly exploded. I watch only ten minutes or so of Matthews a week, in two-minute increments - right before Countdown begins, so I'm sure to catch it from the start - and whatever he was saying was drowned out by my shouting at the TV. He's really bad for my BP. But I love having these quotes in my hip pocket. Thanks again.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:35 AM
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35. He was too against the war ...on Tuesdays. The rest of the week had man-crushes
on W and Rummy.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:05 AM
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36. as per usual these days, I could only make it a short way through the excellent OP;
it's MUCH too infuriating/saddening

here's a a bit of irony, as this Tshirt sponsors Michelle Malkin. think what you will:

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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:09 AM
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37. Nominated and thanks for reminding everyone about the true nature of the "liberal" media
n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:11 AM
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38. amen....keep this around to remind the delusionals who still operate under the
fantasy that the dirty liberal press is/was/always will be "against" our fearless leader
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 05:19 AM
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39. Ohhhh....thank you for this.
One of my faves: "Oh, it was breathtaking. I mean I was almost starting to think that we had become inured to everything that we'd seen of this war over the past three weeks; all this sort of saturation. And finally, when we saw that it was such a just true, genuine expression. It was reminiscent, I think, of the fall of the Berlin Wall. And just sort of that pure emotional expression, not choreographed, not stage-managed, the way so many things these days seem to be. Really breathtaking."
(Washington Post reporter Ceci Connolly, appearing on Fox News Channel on 4/9/03, discussing the pulling down of a Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad, an event later revealed to have been a U.S. military PSYOPS operation--Los Angeles Times, 7/3/04)

Does anyone remember THIS picture?




Would you like to reiterate, Ceci? :shrug:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 05:28 AM
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40. Unfrigginbelievable!
K & R
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jelly Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:52 AM
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41. I've suddenly lost my appetite for breakfast.
Disgusting, the lot of them. The Joe Scarborough quote jumped out at me:

"Maybe disgraced commentators and politicians alike, like Daschle, Jimmy Carter, Dennis Kucinich, and all those others, will step forward tonight and show the content of their character by simply admitting what we know already: that their wartime predictions were arrogant, they were misguided and they were dead wrong. Maybe, just maybe, these self-anointed critics will learn from their mistakes. But I doubt it. After all, we don't call them 'elitists' for nothing." (MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/10/03)

Recently, Joe has angrily spoken out against the Bush administration for mis-leading us into Iraq. I give him credit for finally seeing the light, but I have not heard him say he, personally, shares some of the responsibility and is sorry for being an "arrogant" "self-anointed critic" who was "misguided" and "dead wrong" in the early days of the war. The jury is out on whether he was "learned from" his "mistakes."
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 09:24 AM
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43. Joe is most probably a MURDERER.
His comments don't count in my book and I never watch his show.
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jelly Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:56 PM
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53. Really?
Do tell.

By the way - I don't watch his show, either. I watched clips of him posted on crooksandliars.com.

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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:29 AM
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54. Google 'Lori Klausutis',
an intern found dead in Scarborough's congressional office in Florida. Unlike Gary Condit, who was literally accused of murder by a number of cable media people, the incident involving Scarborough, was never mentioned even once, on television, as far as I can remember.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:57 AM
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42. Did I ever post why I love DU
For posts like this one. :yourock: :yourock:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 09:24 AM
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44. So, all of those people who said we should apologize for being wrong....
One can assume they have apologized. Right?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:17 PM
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46. kick
Everyone needs to read this. Maybe it would awaken some from their self-induced slumber. Then again, maybe not.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:23 PM
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47. You know what? We aught to paste this in e-mails and send to EVERYONE
Everyone on our e-mail lists, everyone in the media, both those quoted here, and the rest, and every one of our senators. The subject line should be "Liberal Media". And maybe should be accompanied by skyview pictures of the massive protests against the war BEFORE it ever started.

And it should be made into a commercial before the 2008 elections, that the entire Democratic party presents to every station, over and over.

And we need to put pressure on our congresscritters to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, and break up these huge, rightwing owned media conglomerates that keep this propaganda running 24/7 on our airwaves and in print.

K & R. :applause: FLDem5, you have done us proud!! :woohoo:

Check out that dig to Scott Ritter. They swiftboated the hell out of him over this, as he kept trying to TELL everyone, there were no phucking weapons of mass destruction.

The media is a weapon of mass distraction.

:kick::kick::kick::kick:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:35 PM
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50. See my post #49. You beat me to this and I agree
we need to flood those traitors with emails and snail mail. I intend to do so and I also am going to posit the question if they intend to correct this by apologizing to the American people and telling the truth and facts from now on as real journalists. It's their opportunity for redemption since they do control the airwaves and other media, they need to right these wrongs.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:38 PM
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48. These quotes make me sick...
And especially Chris Matthews: "The women like this war." Whatever is he smoking?? I'm a woman and I didn't like this war from the time it was a glint in the Monkey's eye. Sheesh!!

All that strutting, swaggering and macho shit means nothing as far as I'm concerned. Men with brains are a real turn-on. :evilgrin: I guess that eliminates ALL those neo-con types.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:31 PM
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49. Thank you for this and I wasn't familiar with that website until now.
I am going to write letters to every one of those pundits with their proclamations included just to rub their noses in it, especially the so-called lefties, like Chris Matthews and Judy Woodward. Then I am going to castigate them for being part of the reason our country is in the quagmire it's in now because they didn't do their duty to report the truth and instead decided to be part of the GOP propaganda machine for their own personal gain.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:50 PM
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51. Goddamned idiots, the lot of them. Reminds me of how dangerously close
I came to choking on my bile on a daily basis in 2003.
That hasn't changed much,really.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:18 PM
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52. Could someone post email addresses for Matthews and Scarborough
I have the time to send them daily reminders of their horrific misstatements every day until they are no longer on the air...

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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 03:42 PM
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57. Here are their email addresses you wanted.
Up in the MSNBC banner, on the right side, there is a button called Email this show.

joe@msnbc.com

hardball@msnbc.com
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 03:54 PM
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58. MY FAVORITE
"We had controversial wars that divided the country. This war united the country and brought the military back."
(Newsweek's Howard Fineman--MSNBC, 5/7/03)
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 05:22 PM
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60. THIS is my personal favorite:
"The war was the hard part. The hard part was putting together a coalition, getting 300,000 troops over there and all their equipment and winning. And it gets easier. I mean, setting up a democracy is hard, but it is not as hard as winning a war."
(Fox News Channel's Fred Barnes, 4/10/03)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 03:56 PM
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59. Chris is garbage, a true testiment to how low the M$M has sunk.
I wouldn't piss on the guy, even if he was running around on fire. I think a warm pitcher of spit has more value than CM.
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