Anyone know how Jeb Bush missed the Draft? I share the SAME Birthday and I was forced to Join up.

[symbolman]

I wonder how Jebbie missed out on the military, my draft number, and I share the same birthday, exact day and year, was 25 -I'd heard that everyone up past that number was Drafted - I joined the USAF to avoid being drafted into the ARMY, but no one ever mentions Jebs Military RECORD, or LACK THERE OF..

Anyone know?

[Hubert Flottz]

1. Don't ask don't tell?

[trumad]

2. Wikipedia

Bush attended the University of Texas at Austin, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa with a Bachelor's degree in Latin American Studies in 1973, taking only two and a half years to complete his work, and obtaining generally excellent grades. He registered for the draft, but the Vietnam War ended before his number came up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush

[WinkyDink]

8. Jeb is a Phi Beta Kappa?? OMG, he must REALLY despise his idiot brother.

[Octafish]

32. Documented Evil Genius.

Just a bit on Jebthro:

The Bush dynasty and the Cuban criminals

New book reveals links of two presidents and the governor of Florida with exiled hardliners

Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles
Monday December 2, 2002
The Guardian

The brother of President George Bush, the Florida governor, Jeb Bush, has been instrumental in securing the release from prison of militant Cuban exiles convicted of terrorist offences, according to a new book. The Bush family has also accommodated the demands of Cuban exile hardliners in exchange for electoral and financial support, the book suggests.

Last year, after September 11, while the justice department announced a sweep of terrorist suspects, Cubans convicted of terrorist offences were being released from US jails with the consent of the Bush administration, according to the book, Cuba Confidential: Love and Vengeance in Miami and Havana, by Ann Louise Bardach, the award-winning investigative journalist who has covered Cuban and Miami politics for the New York Times and Vanity Fair.

The Bush family connections go back to 1984 when Jeb Bush began a close association with Camilo Padreda, a former intelligence officer with the Batista dictatorship overthrown by Fidel Castro.
Jeb Bush was then the chairman of the Dade county Republican party and Padreda its finance chairman. Padreda had earlier been indicted on a $500,000 (£320,000) embezzlement charge along with a fellow exile, Hernandez Cartaya, but the charges were dropped, reportedly after the CIA stated that Cartaya had worked for them.

Padreda later pleaded guilty to defrauding the housing and urban development department of millions of dollars during the 1980s.

The president's younger brother was also on the payroll in the 80s of the prominent Cuban exile Miguel Recarey, who had earlier assisted the CIA in attempts to assassinate President Castro.

Recarey, who ran International Medical Centres (IMC), employed Jeb Bush as a real estate consultant and paid him a $75,000 fee for finding the company a new location, although the move never took place, which raised questions at the time. Jeb Bush did, however, lobby the Reagan/Bush administration vigorously and successfully on behalf of Recarey and IMC. "I want to be very wealthy," Jeb Bush told the Miami News when questioned during that period.

In 1985, Jeb Bush acted as a conduit on behalf of supporters of the Nicaraguan contras with his father, then the vice-president, and helped arrange for IMC to provide free medical treatment for the contras.

SNIP...

Most controversially, at the request of Jeb, Mr Bush Sr intervened to release the convicted Cuban terrorist Orlando Bosch from prison and then granted him US residency.

SNIP...

In July this year, Jeb Bush nominated Raoul Cantero, the grandson of Batista, as a Florida supreme court judge despite his lack of experience. Mr Cantero had previously represented Bosch and acted as his spokesman, once describing Bosch on Miami radio as a "great Cuban patriot".

CONTINUED...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,851913,00.html

He coulda been a contenda...

[damntexdem]

14. Ah, yes: spring of 1973! That's when I was finally free.

I was #1 in the first draft lottery, had a deferment for two years in the Peace Corps, then had been in graduate school for two years. I was CO, so was ordered to find alternate service. And then when I called my draft board in the spring of 1973 to ask a question about alternative service, I was informed that, since they didn't have to fill any more draft quotas, my order to find service had been cancelled.

The thing is: I hate to share that glorious time period with Jeb. ;-)

[onenote]

16. Similar story here

I had a low notice and got my notice for a physical. I avoided it by changing my address, which required a new notice. In the meantime, I got my CO. (Otherwise I probably was heading to Canada) And then it turned out that no one got drafted that year anyway.

[w4rma]

25. So Wikipedia is wrong that the war ended before his number came up? (nt)

[onenote]

29. as a practical matter, the war (for the US) was over by then

Those born in 1953 (including jebbie) were assigned draft lottery numbers in Feb 1972, with the potential for being drafted the following year. However, by 1972, the US combat presence in Vietnam was diminishing rapidly. US troop levels in 'Nam dropped from around 335,000 at the end of 1970 to around 157,000 at the end of 1971 and had fallen to 70,000 by April 1972 (less than 3 months after the lottery for those born in 1953). The last combat troops were out of Vietnam by the end of August 1972. A small number of military personnel stayed in Vietnam until the fall of Saigon in 1975, but no new combat troops, no draftees, etc.

[lpbk2713]

3. Pimples on his ass?

I dunno. :shrug:

[On the Road]

4. Didn't Different States Have Different Cutoffs?

I seem to remember that from college days.

For example, North Carolina might have drafted numbers 1-80 to meet their quota, but Texas might only have drafted numbers 1-50.

[onenote]

10. no one was drafted the year jebbie's number came up

sorry, but this is a dead-end thread.

[Beelzebud]

5. Your last name isn't Bush...

[grmamo]

7. my thoughts exactly! nt

[onenote]

6. well, he was born in 1953 and no one born that year was drafted

So I guess that would be my answer.

I know this because I was born in the same year and had a relatively low (below 50) draft number too.
BTW, you're draft number was 26 if you were born the same day as jebbie.

http://www.sss.gov/lotter4.htm

[WinkyDink]

15. Exactly. 1953 was given a number in 1972, scheduled to be called in 1973, but the

draft was ended.

[napi21]

9. Sooo, it's not that Jeb just appears smarter than his bro, hereally is!

I detest jis politics and his arrogant attitude, but I also remember the first time I ever heard him talk. I looked at the TV and said "gee, that's the brother who should be running for Prez."

NO I don't want him or any other Bush...ever again! But I bet Shrub was really unhappy that once again, he didn't measure up!

[John Q. Citizen]

11. No, but it's a good question

This is what Wikipedia says;
John Ellis "Jeb" Bush (born February 11, 1953), a Republican, was the 43rd Governor of Florida, in the United States, as well as the first Republican to be re-elected to that office. He is a prominent member of the Bush family: the younger brother of President George W. Bush; the older brother of Neil Bush, Marvin Bush, and Dorothy Bush Koch; and the second son of former President George H. W. Bush and Barbara Bush.
snip..

Bush attended the University of Texas at Austin, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa with a Bachelor's degree in Latin American Studies in 1973, taking only two and a half years to complete his work, and obtaining generally excellent grades. He registered for the draft, but the Vietnam War ended before his number came up.

After his early graduation, Bush married Columba Gallo, on February 23, 1974. Their three children are George P., John E. "Jeb", Jr., and Noelle.

[donco6]

12. Actually, I think EVERYONE knows how Jeb avoided the draft.

Don't we?

[onenote]

13. actually, if you read the posts in this thread, you will know

and you'll avoid looking foolish.

Sadly, the OP made a bad decision in joining the service to avoid the draft since he wouldn't have been drafted. I had a lot of friends that joined ROTC the day after the lottery because it was being said that anyone with a number of 50, give or take five, was likely to get drafted. And, in fact, I even got my notice for a physical. But in the end, no one born in 1953 actually was drafted into the armed forces.

[symbolman]

17. Gosh

what an idiot I was for Enlisting before I was drafted, even though I swear to god that people PAST my draft number WERE being drafted.. maybe it was a State Quota as someone suggested..

And to think instead of serving my country I could have been sitting around growing hair and smoking weed all day..

What a fool I was :)

There's something strange going on here though, I entered the service in JUNE of 1971, and I'd been Notified that my number was 26 THEN.. something fishy here..

[onenote]

18. they may have been called for physicals, but no one was drafted that year

And, yep, I got to keep my hair long and my papers rolled.

[onenote]

21. if you entered in 1971 you entered before the draft lottery for your year was held

The lottery for those born in 1953 was held in February 1972. I remember it well. After I got my (low) number, I went outside and filled up cups with snow and poured 151 proof rum over it and got totally wasted. Biggest problem was that the rum was so damn strong it kept causing the bottom of the cups to disintegrate.

DOn't know what exactly happened with you, but it sounds like someone gave you bad info. At the time everyon I know checked on these things themselves, very carefully.

[NNN0LHI]

23. Kind of reminds me of the guy who had all his teeth pulled out to avoid the draft...

...and then at his physical he was rejected because of a punctured eardrum he didn't know he had.

Are you sure smoking weed didn't cloud your decision to join up?

I wasn't planning on joining the military......................but then I got high.

:7

Don

[yurbud]

19. have you seen a photo of him? the guy doesn't have any bones in his body

he's a human jellyfish. It's hard to carry a pack like that.

[TheCowsCameHome]

20. A letter from his veterinarian?

Just suggestin'..............

[flyingfysh]

22. I had a better number than that

My number in the draft lottery was 007, which everyone who knows the James Bond books knows is a license to kill.

[EVDebs]

24. I had an H student deferment

so I think Jeb might have also

see the Selective Service site

http://www.sss.gov/FSdiffer.htm

[w4rma]

26. Wikipedia says that Jeb didn't defer. It says his number was never called. (nt)

[Sancho]

27. Jeb may be "smart", but the faculty at U. Florida just voted against

giving him an honorary degree. He was nominated by the UF Pres. and two members of the Board of Trustees. The vote against him was 38-28.

Meanwhile, he has proven to be as dishonest and devious as GWB ever was.....

[radfringe]

28. is your last name "bush"?

that could be the problem...

[onenote]

30. or maybe the problem is that you don't read posts up thread

that show that no one born in 1953 was drafted.

I'm not defending jebbie for any thing his done, but I'm not going to accuse him of special treatment when the facts clearly rebut the claim.

[SpiralHawk]

31. Most republicons are chickenhawks, or AWOL deserters

So Jebbie is just living down to typical republicon selfish chickenhawk standards.

If you doubt this, just tune into Libaugh, Hannity or O'Reilly -- all republicon propagandist chickenhawks with Big Mouths, and no guts, not service whatsoever to the USA.

At least they didn't desert, like Commander AWOL

[spanone]

33. one word....daddy