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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 05:53 PM
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“High Crimes and Misdemeanors” – The Bar for Impeachment of a President
In arguing about the merits of impeaching George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, some opponents of impeachment mistakenly advocate the view that the impeachment of public officials requires evidence of the commitment of an actual crime – and would not be justified by such things as gross violation of the public trust, corruption, negligence, or incompetence. Leaving aside the fact that such an interpretation would leave our nation subject to rule by people who would do great and possibly irreparable harm to it, the preponderance of evidence flatly contradicts that interpretation.

Not that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney aren’t guilty of numerous actual crimes: Regarding the abuses and torture of our prisoners, the U.S. Supreme Court so much as branded George W. Bush a ‘war criminal’ for violating the Geneva Convention, in their Hamdan v. Rumsfeld decision (explained here by Vyan); numerous war crimes have been committed by the Bush administration in the war against Iraq, including the preemptive invasion of Iraq itself; George Bush has repeatedly admitted to his program for warrantless spying against tens of thousands of Americans, in violation of the Fourth amendment to our Constitution as well as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA); the American Bar Association has said that Bush’s signing of over 800 “signing statements” to circumvent the laws of our country violates the “Separation of Powers” provided in our Constitution; and then there’s the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame by the Bush administration, which leads right to Dick Cheney, if not to George Bush himself.

So there is plenty of evidence of actual crimes. But crimes are more difficult to prove than are things like gross violation of the public trust, corruption, negligence, or incompetence. And therefore, the incorrect claims that strong evidence of crimes is needed before proceeding with impeachment poses an unnecessary barrier to an action that is at this time urgently needed for our nation, as well as an excuse for our Congress not to act.

If things like gross violation of the public trust, corruption, negligence, or incompetence are rightly recognized as a valid reason for impeachment, then in addition to the above noted offenses, things like the Bush administration’s gross negligence in its response to Hurricane Katrina, its repeated denial of global warming, its failure to provide adequate health care to veterans, and the loss of billions of dollars associated with no-bid contracts for reconstruction in Iraq given to Bush administration cronies, would all easily be considered as additional impeachable offenses.

And the U.S. attorney firing scandal would be the icing on the cake. This scandal represents nothing less than a largely successful attempt to pervert our justice system by using it for the partisan political gains of the President of the United States. If that doesn’t represent a betrayal of trust and corruption, then what does?

So let’s consider the evidence that the “crimes and misdemeanors” referred to in our Constitution as a justification for the impeachment of a President are not limited to actual punishable crimes. To do that we’ll take a look at English common law precedence, the opinions of some of the framers of our Constitution, the statement of a U.S. Supreme Court Justice, the House Judiciary Committee’s articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon, and that great Constitutional authority, Ann Coulter (when she argued for the impeachment of Bill Clinton).


English common law precedent

When our Founding Fathers wrote our Constitution, they used English common law as a reference point for many of their ideas. Impeachment had been used in English common law for many centuries by that time, and at the time that “crimes and misdemeanors” were described as a justification for impeachment, a misdemeanor was not defined as any sort of a crime, as described here:

Impeachment was used frequently during the reigns of James I (1603-1625) and Charles I (1628-1648)… Some of these impeachments charged high treason… others charged high crimes and misdemeanors. The latter included both statutory offenses, particularly with respect to the Crown monopolies, and non-statutory offenses. For example, Sir Henry Yelverton, the King's Attorney General, was impeached in 1621 of high crimes and misdemeanors in that he failed to prosecute after commencing suits, and exercised authority before it was properly vested in him.


The opinions of our Founding Fathers on impeachment

James Madison

It was Madison's view that impeachment was an "indispensable" provision for defending the American experiment - and the American people - "against the incapacity, negligence or perfidy of the chief Magistrate." The promise of another election, at which a wrongdoing executive might be removed, was not enough to provide such protection

Alexander Hamilton

A well constituted court for the trial of impeachments… The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust.

Thomas Jefferson

When once a republic is corrupted there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption . . . every other correction is either useless or a new evil.

The South Carolina ratifying convention

Under the new Constitution, the abuse of power was more effectually checked than under the old one. A proper body, immediately taken from the people, and returnable to the people every second year, are to impeach those who behave amiss, or betray their public trust; another body, taken from the state legislatures, are to try them. No man, however great, is exempt from impeachment and trial. If the representatives of the people think he ought to be impeached and tried, the President cannot pardon him; and this great man himself, whom the honorable gentleman pretends to be so much afraid of, as well as the Vice-President, and all civil officers of the United States, are to be removed from office on impeachment and conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.


U.S. Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story

The offences, to which the power of impeachment has been, and is ordinarily applied, as a remedy, are of a political character. Not but that crimes of a strictly legal character fall within the scope of the power, (for, as we shall presently see, treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors are expressly within it); but that it has a more enlarged operation, and reaches, what are aptly termed, political offences, growing out of personal misconduct, or gross neglect, or usurpation, or habitual disregard of the public interests, in the discharge of the duties of political office.


The impeachment of Richard Nixon

The U.S. House Judiciary Committee in 1974 approved three Articles of Impeachment against Richard Nixon. It is a certainty that the three articles would have been approved by the full U.S. House of Representatives had Nixon not resigned before they had time to do so, therefore making impeachment a moot issue. Each of the three articles contained this language inserted at the end of the description of the evidence:

In all of this, Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore Richard M. Nixon, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.

Note that there is no mention whatsoever in any of the language in these concluding paragraphs that suggests the committing of an actual crime.


Ann Coulter

I don’t know whether Ann Coulter believes that these principles should apply to Republican Presidents as well as Democratic ones, but here’s what she said with regard to the impeachment of Bill Clinton:

An impeachment conviction in the Senate merely removes a statesman from his office of "honor, trust, or profit" with the United States. The criminal law is for personal punishment; impeachment is for keeping statesmen virtuous.


Concluding thoughts

Never in the history of our nation has a President and Vice President been so deserving of impeachment and removal from office. Their subversion of our Constitution goes way beyond gross violation of the public trust, corruption, negligence, and incompetence. They have put themselves above the laws of our nation and the international laws of our world, and in so doing have repeatedly subverted our Constitution, which provides the foundation for the rule of law in our nation.

Now Congress is “negotiating” with the Bush administration to persuade them to testify before Congress regarding severe abuses of their power. I don’t see what there is to negotiate. Congress has both the authority and the responsibility to investigate Presidents who abuse their office, and the President is obligated by law to comply with such investigations. The purpose of claims of “Executive privilege” is NOT to protect the President against the discovery of his crimes or misdeeds. Rather, it is only to be used to protect the security of our nation. When it is used to protect the President against Congressional discovery of his misdeeds that is a clear violation of our Constitution, as it upsets the “Separation of Power” that was intended to protect our nation against tyranny.

Congress does, however, have a remedy for that, which is written into the Constitution itself, and that remedy is impeachment. No other offense is required. If George Bush gets away once again with putting himself above the laws of our nation, and if Congress once again fails to stop him, they will be continuing to set a terrible precedent that could very well lead to the end of our democracy.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:08 PM
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1. Shorter version: We expect our leaders to be scum and accept it.
So the bar's a lot lower than the high flung language suggests.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:02 PM
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19. I hadn't thought of it like that, but there seems to be a certain truth in that
"We expect our leaders to be scum and accept it."

Come to think of what, could else could explain why Bush and Cheney aren't already impeached and removed from office?
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:14 PM
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2. Impressive!!!
:applause:

You've got me in the palm of your hand.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:11 AM
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11. Thank you
I bet I know what you're sick 'n tired of ;-)

Welcome to DU sick 'n tired. :toast:
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:18 PM
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3. Ann Coulter has a whole book on it.
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 06:45 PM by gulliver
It's aimed at Clinton of course. I sort of have to read it as a trade with another guy reading a Dem book. Anyway, it is amusing to read Ann's book but substitute Bush for Clinton and Bush's major malfeasances for Clinton's minor ones. Every time I read how Clinton put Kathleen Willey's hand on his genitals, for example, I substitute Bush saying Iraq was getting uranium from Niger in the State of the Union.

By the standard Coulter sets in her book, Bush should certainly be impeached. Don't expect her to say so any time soon, though.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 06:14 AM
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12. I sometmes read right wing books so that I can feel that I'm approaching the subject with an
open mind. But only if I think there's a chance that the book just have something to say and that it is not a pack of lies. Such books are difficult to find IMO, so I don't do that very often. Before I would read a book by Ann Coulter somebody would have to offer me something quite valuable in return.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:19 PM
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4. Testify
If George Bush gets away once again with putting himself above the laws of our nation, and if Congress once again fails to stop him, they will be continuing to set a terrible precedent that could very well lead to the end of our democracy.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:25 AM
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15. What a way to end such a powerful post.
Are Democrats up to the task? I sincerely hope so but doubt it because of their behavior the last six years...They are more afraid of not being re-elected than they are of losing our Democracy...
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:01 AM
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18. Thank you -- I also have a lot of apprehension regarding how serious the Dems are about holding the
Bush administration accountable for their serious crimes, transgressions and abuse of power.

I talked with my son about this last night, and he pointed out to me that the Dems have only been in control of Congress for a little more than two months. It seemed a lot longer than that to me.

So perhaps I should have more patience. But then, why the hell take impeachment "off the table". And with such a tremendous abundance of evidence for serious crimes, why not put it back on the table already? I just don't know what to think.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 03:56 PM
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23. Yes, I don't see how it can be otherwise
He is setting a precedent which says essentially that the President and Vice President can commit whatever crimes they want, and whatever betrayal of trust that they choose, and yet are not expected to be held accountable for it. Is George W. Bush our King, or is he a public servant, as indicated in our Constitution?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:22 PM
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5. No one has ever deserved it more.
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 06:25 PM by Patsy Stone
From the WaPo archives:


Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment:

II. The Historical Origins of Impeachment
B. The Intentions of the Framers

The following is from a report written and released by the Judiciary Committee in 1974 in the aftermath of the Watergate crisis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/watergatedoc_3.htm#grounds

The draft of the Constitution then before the Convention provided for his removal upon impeachment and conviction for "treason or bribery." George Mason objected that these grounds were too limited:

"Why is the provision restrained to Treason & bribery only? Treason as defined in the Constitution will not reach many great and dangerous offenses. Hastings is not guilty of Treason. Attempts to subvert the Constitution may not be Treason as above defined-As bills of attainder which have saved the British Constitution are forbidden, it is the more necessary to extend: the power of impeachments."

Mason then moved to add the word "maladministration" to the other two grounds. Maladministration was a term in use in six of the thirteen state constitutions as a ground for impeachment, including Mason's home state of Virginia.

When James Madison objected that "so vague a term will be equivalent to a tenure during pleasure of the Senate," Mason withdrew "maladministration" and substituted "high crimes and misdemeanors agst. the State,"which was adopted eight states to three, apparently with no further debate.


Also: Jonathan Turley --

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/turley.htm

"The accusatory function of the House is essential to maintain a certain deterrence on presidential misconduct. Assuming the impeachment process is a check and balance, any limiting threshold test must not be endorsed without considerable care and caution. Narrowing the scope of impeachable offenses can correspondingly expand the scope of permissible presidential conduct."

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:06 PM
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6. As in .... not even close ...
:hi:

Excellent post, TfC!! :thumbsup: Recommended and Bookmarked.


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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:06 PM
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10. Thank you ul -- Hope things are going well with you
:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:11 PM
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20. I believe
You're right! :hi:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:19 PM
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7. I love that quote by Jonathan Turley
"Narrowing the scope of impeachable offenses can correspondingly expand the scope of permissible presidential conduct."

Thanks for the links.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:37 PM
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8. Yes
He's a wise man.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:57 PM
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9. Jonathan Turley is very Intelligent
Thank you for the links

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 06:23 AM
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13. Thanks for posting what I feel strongly about
and what motivates me and gives me the drive to keep trying. It's all about accountability and governing within the proper constraints of our constitution and form of government. We lose that and we lose the whole designs and meaning of our republic.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 09:52 AM
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17. Yes indeed -- often I feel very much afraid that we are on the verge of losing that
For the better part of 6 years there has been almost no accountability for our government, which is bordering on the tyrranical.

Now that Dems have taken over Congress there is evidence that government is being held to account much more than in the previous 6 years -- but still, I feel that things just aren't moving fast enough, and I don't understand why Pelosi took impeachment "off the table". Maybe I'm just not patient enough, but I really worry that the Dems don't intend to do what they really need to do.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 06:25 AM
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14. K&R.(nt)
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:39 AM
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16. Well said, TFC!
as always!! And a very worthy K&R!!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:34 PM
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21. Thank you Terri -- There is an organzation called "Impeach for Peace" that is asking us to pressure
Congress to Act on this vital matter by submitting petitions to them.

Here is their petition:
http://beingism.org/cgi-bin/DIYExtra.cgi

I will be posting more information on this later this weekend. :thumbsup:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:38 PM
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22. I'll kick that. - n/t
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 05:00 PM
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24. From an article in the Washington Spectator by Joe W. Pitts
The new Congress has thus far not lived up to its promise to address these and other civl liberties and human rights violations and, where necessary, reassert the rule of law. It took grassroots pressure to defeat the president’s attempt to legalize these programs during the recent lame-duck session, and it will take grassroots pressure on the new Congress to achieve real reform. Congress must call immediate and comprehensive hearings both to stop this illicit surveillance and to hold accountable those who have ordered it.


http://www.washingtonspectator.com/articles/20070315surveillance_2.cfm

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