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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:31 PM
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Einstein said when the bee disappears, humans only have 4 yrs left
Guess what? Not only are the bees disappearing in North America, but also in Europe. German scientist believes it is because the pollen from genetically-modified seeds is causing problems with the bees' digestive tract. The seeds contain genes, called "terminators" (like Arnold),which cause them to basically commit suicide.

Doubt these seeds are working wonders for human digestive tracts either.

When bee is gone, plants are not pollinated, food supply becomes scarce, you know the rest!

Link to today's INN:

http://www.innworldreport.net/#

:scared:
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:33 PM
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1. Blame Monsanto et al. for their stupid copy protection schemes
They're trying to make it so that farmers can't save the seeds of the plants that they grow, and if they try, they can be sued for copyright infringement! Hopefully this will set back or destroy terminator seeds in the same way that Sony's spyware did for DRM on CD's.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:43 PM
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8. Yes, I saw a show about that. Monsanto is actually suing farmers whose "normal" seeds were
pollinated by their GMO seeds, saying they didn't buy their seeds from Monsanto, but they owe them for the product the "good" farmers produced on their farms.

Insanity of corporate monarchs!

We've got to end this tyranny!:grr:
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Pierzin Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:43 PM
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37. Check out LinkTV or Vandana Shiva and Globalization!! Amazing
There is a great documentary they did which aired on LinkTV, and Newshour with Jim Lehrer is showing a special on it right now!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:47 PM
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39. Bingo n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:36 PM
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2. I made a video on the bees dying
this is a testimony to genetic modified seeds


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8A6Tl6JzG0

I saw a bunch of baby bees in my garden but I don't use pesticides or genetic seeds
agriculture is screwed
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:49 PM
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13. Great video, lovuian!
Thanks.

:hi:
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:50 PM
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15. Very good video - thanks (n/t)
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:09 PM
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32. Wonderful! I voted it up. Thank you. ....n/t
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:36 PM
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3. When the bees disappear and we're all starving.......

....I am going to love eating those Monsanto people.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:20 PM
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35. With non-genetically modified fava beans and a nice organic Chianti?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:38 PM
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4. Hey I checked the link but didn't see the article
can ya get specific on the link
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:47 PM
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10. Click on the TV in the upper left corner.
I have dialup, so it would take me DAYS to download the show. Those who have broadband should be able to download quickly.

Sorry, folks, I saw the show on my satellite, but know many of you get your news on net. I linked for y'all. :)
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:48 PM
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11. I found it here via a rawstory link
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:07 PM
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31. Thank you for this Its been suspected this is about GM food
its really interesting
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:38 PM
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5. kick
:(
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:39 PM
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6. Ha! I knew it!
I knew putting money into a 401(k) was for suckers!
:bounce::bounce::bounce:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:41 PM
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7. Is that all there is, my friend?
Well let's keep on dancing - let's bring on the booze - and have a ball, if that's all...
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:47 PM
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9. Umm, the terminator seeds aren't released yet
It's highly unlikely that these seeds are causing the drops in bee populations, especially in Europe where GM crops are rare.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:49 PM
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12. Ummmm, limited experiments on a few acres = global release.
But true, that would be the bees spreading it. Damn them.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:57 PM
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16. Genes that create sterile seeds
The genes are designed to only last one generation.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:04 PM
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18. geez gravity
you sound like you work for Monsanto or ADM.............Lol
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:18 PM
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20. How many generations does it take to kill some bees?
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:20 PM
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34. Eleven
I don't know, but if the only bees that could be affected by the seeds were the ones who visited that small fields that tested the seeds. Even if it did kill the bees, it would have been a real small portion of the entire population since the plants genes prevent it from spreading.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 09:09 PM
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41. LOL, a sense of humor - good
I dont like GM foods, seeds or what ever, the more I look into it, GM, the more it stnks.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 09:17 PM
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43. Actually Read the article before you comment.

The article talks about some beekeepers loosing 60 or 80% of their hive populations and the remaining bees having 5-6 different infections.

This isn't about the Genes of the plants being brought back. It is about the plants being immune to a HUGE amount of a specific poison. The bees that pollinate are then exposed to much larger amounts of the toxin and thus their whole immune system is compromised.

Without reading the article you kinda sound like the folks in 1982 who said, AIDS was just confined to Haiti.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:28 PM
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22. Take a look at this
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:49 PM
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14. Well, there are some other pollinators
But the bee is by far the best one for our agriculture.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:57 PM
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17. LOL. Don't Worry, We'll Be Just Fine.
And I found this link for ya. It's based on your GM theory...

...problem is, it's satire. :rofl:

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s5i16519
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:05 PM
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19. our next step will be to GM crops to smell like rotting flesh & be pollinated by carrion flys
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 07:05 PM by bushmeat
there should be plenty of carrion flys around by they since there wont be enough folks to bury the dead
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:27 PM
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21. from what I understand
the European bees are being pushed out by Asian hornets and American bees by some sort of mites...
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:30 PM
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24. The mites are better able to attack the bees through their weakened digestive tracts.
Either way, we're screwed.
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:42 PM
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26. not so sure on that
the varroa mite is an external mite (http://www.uky.edu/Ag/Entomology/entfacts/struct/ef608.htm) and the other mite is tracheal in nature (http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2164.html) so I am not sure where or how the digestive tract comes into the mix.

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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:46 PM
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27. According to the story, it is through their intestines.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:29 PM
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23. we have plenty of bee's in my neighborhood, especially my backyard.
i would be more than happy to export them to where they need to be.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:34 PM
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25. We still have some bumblebees here in TN, crone...
I saw one on my back deck tonight. :hi:
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:52 PM
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30. We have lots of Bumblebees, too. I think it is the honeybee that is the best pollinator, & they are
the ones that are disappearing the quickest. Many of the beekeepers take their bees "on the road" to large agricultural areas to help pollinate the crops.

This problem has been around for more than 10 years here in the US, but is not widely known outside the beekeeping community.

You know I'm in TN, too. :hi:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 09:17 PM
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44. Yeah - I pay attention to the newbies from the South.
I get alittle (overly) disgusted with some folks here who think us Southerners are all backwards rednecks who love Bush, so I pay attention when a DUer joins who's from these here parts. :)

We'll show 'em we're not all Confederate (battle flag of Northern Virginia) flag-waving, sister-marrying, race-baiting cretins who think Shrub is God. :rofl:
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:43 PM
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45. Wow, it feels so good to be called a newbie at my age!
B-)
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:49 PM
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28. We'll just manufacture people and have human burgers.
Problem solved.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:53 PM
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40. I read a fictional story a long time ago that
made the claim that feasting on human flesh caused extreme hair and tooth loss, never have figured out whether this notion was based on fact or whether the main character's loss of teeth was some kind of divine punishment for ultimate sin. I guess I'll find out soon after they start franchising McHumans--Over 3,000,000 people served.
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MistressOverdone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:50 PM
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29. Gosh, maybe we can all find work
polinating in the fields with paintbrushes?

Like I didn't have enough to worry about!

How about algae? Can we eat algae?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:12 PM
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33. That's ok, the illegals will do the work that the bee's don't want to do...
:rofl:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:35 PM
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36. There is a 9 million crop of Almond trees in California
which will be lost because they can't be pollinated
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:47 PM
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38. A while back there was also a thread on bananas mutated now and will die out soon too!
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 08:48 PM by calipendence
There is SO much wrong with the genetically modified food industry that suffers so much from lack of regulatory oversight! Thanks to our corrupt corporate serving government now. One more BIG reason we need public campaign financing in place, TOMORROW!

I wonder if we'll ever get the margarine commercial jingle that said "You don't fool with mother nature!" I think Corporate America would have added reasons to stay away from that more "informative" line now!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 09:11 PM
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42. K&R and thanks for the post. Fascinating read. ....n/t
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 04:14 AM
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46. Wanna bet * & Co have a back up plan for themselves in Paraguay?
:puke:
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