Who has seen any MSM coverage of the Tice revelations yet?

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

It's a big story. A GIANT story. We were always told that they just listened to calls going foreign and that a few Americans might have been inadvertently swept up.

Listening to everybody all the time is like East Germany or any other repressive regime you want to name. Journalists? Financial interests? Elections and campaigns? People with divergent views (i.e. bloggers)? Politicians they didn't like - (Seliegman)?

I want to know how the information was collected. Who had access to it and how it was used. AND when is it going to stop?

If journalists don't cover a story about they themselves being tapped all the time, then we will really KNOW that something is rotten in Denmark.

[grannie4peace]

1. last night on keith!!!

:hi: all hell will break lose when the shit hits the fan!!!

[summer borealis]

2. AP hasn't told the media what to do yet

And most M$M have too many pre-Super Bowl stories yet to tell ... and, whoa, Aretha's hat ... and the weather!!!!!

[ejpoeta]

3. did it not send a shiver down your spine! how frightening.

[Belial]

4. Tice has some credibility issues.. dont think MSM is ready to

fall on this sword just yet... plus... what better way to get the press involved than to say that the press was being spied on as well? Something in this doesnt sound just right..

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

5. What credibility issues? nt.

[Donnachaidh]

7. this might be what th eposter is inferring above --

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message236920/pg1

It's complex, but Tice was suddenly diagnosed with *emotional problems* when he tried to get someone to look into a suspected double agent. It looks like the NSA was singling him out for being a troublemaker.

[corpseratemedia]

19. this is similar to what they labeled "problem" personnel in the CIA in the '50's

actually the code words were "closeted homosexual" or "homosexual tendencies"

[Dennis Donovan]

6. Enlighten us - what credibility issues does he have?

:shrug:

[Belial]

8. Came across the quote below while reading a little..

"In April, 2003, shortly after the e-mail message, Tice was ordered to undertake a psychological evaluation, which he believed was retaliatory. The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia. "He did this even though he admitted that I did not show any of the normal indications of someone suffering from paranoia," Tice said in a statement to the Inspector General."

[Dennis Donovan]

9. "...which he believed was retaliatory. "

Are you familiar with a tactic they used extensively in the old USSR in which they declared dissidents insane? Do you believe the Bush admin would be above such things?:shrug:

[Belial]

12. No.. Not at all.. but.. my thinking. however flawed.. is this

do you really think that the Govt would let someone run around telling all its secrets? Maybe my thinking is too over the top.. I dunno.. the origianl thread was asking why the MSM has not picked up on this story.. I was only offering a reason why.. I am not saying this guy has issues. I think its a very brave thing he has done and is doing..

Sorry.. was not attempting to rile anyone up.. just throwing a little more of whats out there into the mix. :-)

[Le Taz Hot]

10. I've not heard anything dubious about his credibility.

I would agree that, out of all the information he is probably privy to, it would make sense that this would be the one bombshell he would throw out there in order for the press to pick up the momentum. THAT remains to be seen as so far they have been silent. (Quelle suprise.) To date, the MSM continues to talk about the First Lady's inaugural dress and Aretha's hat. :eyes:

[ThomWV]

18. I think you're exactly right - to be honest with you I didn't believe a single word he said.

I think he is right that virtually every electronic communication is monitored but I don't think this guy has any more credibility than my dog.

[sammym3]

11. Now is when I miss Dan Rather. Tice should be made a huge issue

I suspect that the Obama administration knows about him, knows he is telling the truth but doesn't want to deal with the issue now because it would mean that some legal actions must be taken against the past administration.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

14. I imagine Dan Rather will take a very personal view of this disclosure

I wonder if he can do anything through "discovery" in his current lawsuit. He should sit down and have a long personal talk with Tice.

[spanone]

13. i doubt it will see the light of day beyond cable shows

the media didn't win the election...they have not changed one bit

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

16. Well, if it gains traction on the Internet (and how could it not ?)

eventually the MSM will be dragged kicking and screaming into covering it.

Think about this - the government has the capacity to identify ANY whistleblower anywhere and know EXACTLY who they talked to and about what. Do you think they were monitoring their own USAs - like Carol Lam? I sure do.

[radfringe]

15. I think Tice will be on KO again tonight (1/22)

Whistleblower reveals surveillance target
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/

Jan. 21: Former analyst at the National Security Agency, Russell Tice, exclusively reveals to Countdown’s Keith Olbermann that American journalists where specifically targeted by the Bush administration for surveillance. Tice feared revealling this information while George Bush occupied the Oval office. Full story

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

17. Some journalists knew something was up - remember when Andrea Mitchell asked someone re Ammanpour?

if Ammanpour was or had been monitored?- Someone obviously said something to Mitchell. And then that transcript was scrubbed of that reference later. I'll go google this if I have time. I guess Andrea didn't realize EVERYONE including herself was being monitored.