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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:16 PM
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Obama: "I CAN SAY WITHOUT EXCEPTION-THAT THE US WILL NOT TORTURE"
Edited on Thu Jan-22-09 03:44 PM by kpete
Obama, 1/22/09

"I CAN SAY WITHOUT EXCEPTION-THAT THE US WILL NOT TORTURE"

to huge applause!!!
just now at press conference
MSNBC

thank you, kp

.............

REVOKED! Executive Order 13233

We officially live in a pre 9/11 world:

By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, in order to improve the effectiveness of human intelligence gathering, to promote the safe, lawful, and humane treatment of individuals in United States custody and of United States personnel who are detained in armed conflicts, to ensure compliance with the treaty obligations of the United States, including the Geneva Conventions, and to take care that the laws of the United States are faithfully executed, I hereby order as follows:

Executive Order 13440 of July 20, 2007, is revoked. All executive directives, orders, and regulations inconsistent with this order, including but not limited to those issued to or by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from September 11, 2001, to January 20, 2009, concerning detention or the interrogation of detained individuals, are revoked to the extent of their inconsistency with this order. Heads of departments and agencies shall take all necessary steps to ensure that all directives, orders, and regulations of their respective departments or agencies are consistent with this order. Upon request, the Attorney General shall provide guidance about which directives, orders, and regulations are inconsistent with this order.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ExecutiveOrderPresidentialRecords/
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/1/22/124536/107/885/687626
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:17 PM
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1. Yes, but he's kept a loophole in the legal language. nt
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:21 PM
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3. Could you please provide the loophole language to which you refer?
I have only seen an article by the Independent opining on this as it "could" be, again with no direct language included.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:44 PM
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5. Hey! How did you change your user name?!
:shrug:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:21 PM
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2. Nobody will believe it until and unless
we drag Cheney, Addington, Yoo, and Bush in to face the consequences of violating one of the key treaties the US upheld for so long.

Nobody will believe it because they know the next administration could change the policy unless the last ones pay for what they did.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:36 PM
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4. But will Egypt still torture for us?
Otherwise, he is causing a lot of unemployment around the globe.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 04:50 PM
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7. The same with closing Gitmo
Today's executive order to close the Guantanamo prison is fantastic news. But what's going to happen to the inmates? Where will they be six months from now? Still incarcerated, spread around various military bases, or sent to Egypt, Syria or even Iraq for interrogation? That will be the real measure of change.

Until recently Obama was still saying it was going to take a year to close Gitmo. One day and one presidential order are just the first step.

I'm still happy today though, and a bit less cynical.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 03:58 PM
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6. am I dreaming??? is it true???? far out
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