Female student decapitated at Virginia tech.

[Liberal_in_LA]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJB9tBzWTj6aPe-DcqicYnhrDx5gD95SAFHG0

Victim of Virginia Tech slaying was decapitated
By SUE LINDSEY – 3 hours ago

BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) — Virginia Tech Police say a female graduate student from China who was killed on campus was decapitated with a kitchen knife.

Police on Thursday identified the victim of the Wednesday night slaying as 22-year-old Xin (zhin) Yang, who had arrived on the Blacksburg campus from Beijing on Jan. 8 to study accounting.

Police Chief Wendell Flinchum says the victim and her accused attacker, 25-year-old Haiyang Zhu (hy-yuhng-joo), knew each other but no motive has been established. He is in custody.

It was the first killing on the school's campus since a gunman killed 32 people before turning the gun on himself in April 2007

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[Captain Hilts]

2. Oh my...

This is just terrible. And for it to happen at Tech is a double whammy.

[libodem]

3. Good Lord!

Freaking obscene.

[originalpckelly]

4. Those poor kids can't seem to catch a break.

[jody]

5. It's obvious kitchen knives are evil and should be banned. n/t

[whathehell]

6. Umm..I don't think anyone is saying that....Are you making light of this?

If you are, I can only surmise that some of us are becoming jaded in a seriously ugly way.

[PVnRT]

7. If she had been shot

there would be people saying the same thing about guns.

[whathehell]

16. They should be saying it about guns....It's too easy to kill with a gun.

[PVnRT]

18. Well, then, I guess this is perfectly OK

[Scout]

34. that's a fucking stupid comment to make, because no one is going to come on here and

say that.

for fuck's sake :eyes:

[jody]

9. Every OP about a murder where the criminal used a gun attracts DUers who demand guns be banned.

Their logic would also demand that kitchen knives be banned.

[whathehell]

15. I disagree. The issue with guns is that it is TOO easy...You can

kill the person from a distance...No so with a knife.

[jody]

19. So we disagree, facts are that knives and guns are inanimate objects requiring a human to actually

kill.

Leading Causes of Violence Related Injury Deaths, United States 2005, All Races, Both Sexes

Rank AGE 1-85
2 Homicide Firearm 12,337
5 Homicide Cut/pierce 2,094
6 Homicide Unspecified 1,578
8 Homicide Suffocation 605
10 Homicide Other Spec., NECN 533
15 Homicide Struck by or Against 201
18 Homicide Fire/burn 153
19 Homicide Other Spec., classifiable 120

[whathehell]

22. Yes, arguably you could kill someone with a ballpoint pen, but

let's be serious. Ease of use and proximity to the victim are pertinent and important considerations.

If, on the other hand, you're against all regulations, i.e. a gun nut, I guess we have nothing more to say to each other.

[NeedleCast]

20. Some people can kill you with a knife from about the same distance

that they could kill you with a handgun. Not much of an argument.

[whathehell]

21. Sure...Circus Knife throwers maybe...Sorry...Not much of an argument.

In any case, I'm not for abolishing guns..just for stronger regulations...and I think you'll find that many on this board agree with that.

[MadMaddie]

26. Not true...in some training I took in a former life

a man can cross a room before an officer can pull his weapon out his holster.

People understimate the catastrophic damage Knives can do and how fast it can happen.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

23. That's why guns are great for self defense.

[Shardik]

10. For some, the pro-gun message is more important than anything else. n/t

[Chovexani]

31. Especially something as trivial as violence against women.

:sarcasm:

[TCJ70]

55. So...violence against women is worse than violence against men?

(I saw your sarcasm tag...but still...)

[Scout]

57. that is not at all what she's saying.... n/t

[TCJ70]

58. The why single out violence against women...

...instead of violence in general?

[Scout]

59. you can single out violence against women without believing that it is "worse than"

violence against men.

Duh.

[Chovexani]

60. I don't have the time or patience for this.

Before you fill up someone's bingo card, go to this site and educate yourself.

http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/

[lukasahero]

61. Well played :)

and :rofl: for the bingo reference!

[Chovexani]

62. I call it the Shakesville approach

Does wonders for saving what's left of my sanity. :)

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[Bluebear]

25. As long as you can get your gun message out, who cares what the circumstances, right?

[Bluebear]

27. .

[LeftyMom]

29. I'd call you a vulture, but it'd be unfair to the vultures.

At least they have a purpose, however grim.

[Le Taz Hot]

30. Inappropriate remark.

Could the resident representative NRA members on DU take a moment to offer a little sympathy for the victim and her family?

[Raskolnik]

47. It's baloney when anti-2A people use a tragedy to make a cheap political point

and it's just as baloney when a pro-2A person does the same thing.

[LanternWaste]

53. That didn't take long...

That didn't take long...

It's always a toss up to see which side will be the first in an attempt to score some ineffectual rhetorical points in order to better validate their world-view.

I think we know which side got to the top of the ladder first this time.

[Idealism]

8. Tech has had many dark moments lately

I hope they find those responsible and mete out justice.

[Liberal_in_LA]

11. They caught him right away... his bloody shirt gave him away.

[Idealism]

12. Innocent until proven guilty, but I hope it is a speedy trial n/t

[Virginia Dare]

14. My anecdotal observance of Chinese nationals..

living under that brutal regime fosters mental instability. Not to say that people of any nationality wouldn't be capable of that, but I've seen it, and just have to wonder if that is a contributing factor in this case.

[cvu86]

28. oh please

I'm sure your comment is innocuous, but...

Chinese nationals are no different than you and me, and most could care less about what their government is doing. While the gov. is always breathing behind their necks, it's not as if it always has a...ahem...dagger to their throats.

[Chovexani]

32. So Chinese people are crazy. Wow.

It's gonna be a long fuckin' 4 (hopefully 8!) years.

BTW, by that logic, Americans are batshit insane. I'd say your post is proof of that.

[SoCalDem]

33. or the extreme pressure on college kids..high costs, no sleep, huge debt,

mental illnesses from all the stress:(

side effects from some of the meds (if they even take them)

and at the end of the college years, maybe no job..:(

throw in sexual tensions and unrequited affections for some, and ..looook out:(

[Zuiderelle]

35. Do you think it makes your comment less racist to say "Chinese nationals" instead of just "Chinese?"

It doesn't.

[Midlodemocrat]

36. That comment is extremely out of character for you. I don't think you meant it the way

you posted it.

Although, in fairness, you wouldn't be the first person voicing that here, today. By here, I mean, Virginia.

[J-Lo Biafra]

38. "Anecdotal" being the key word, Sparky.

[Hugabear]

39. What else does your "anecdotal observance" of Chinese nationals tell you?

Please, do enlighten us...

[donco6]

41. LOL!

That takes the cake. Chinese people are crazy. Wonderful.

[HamdenRice]

45. My anecdotal observance of Chinese nationals is that they are normal like you and me

and that comes from traveling and doing business in China back in the 90s. The central government has relatively little affect on the lives of most people.

[Creideiki]

56. Funny. My anecdotal observance of Virginia residents...

living under that brutal fundamentalist Christian regime fosters racism and homophobia. Not to say that people that reside in any state wouldn't be capable of that, but I've seen it, and just have to wonder if that is a contributing factor in this case.

[specimenfred1984]

17. Arm the students! Arm the Teachers! Arm the Janitors! Arm Everybody!

Nothing would ever happen if everyone carried a loaded firearm, yeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwlllllllllllllllllllll!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

24. You seem to be the only person suggesting it.

[bullwinkle428]

40. Just give it a few hours...

[Raskolnik]

54. It's been a few hours, is anyone suggesting it? n/t

[JVS]

37. bummer

[Gin]

42. I find no humor in this murder.......if there were others that witnessed this

they are scarred for life.

[JVS]

44. Humor is often a coping mechanism to deal with that which is to horrific to be dealt with honestly

So while I don't see humor in this, I can understand why some might make inappropriate comments.

[woo me with science]

43. How awful. How terrible.

People at that school have been through enough.

[DS1]

46. Virginia Tech obviously needs to hand out more guns

[Raskolnik]

48. Who is suggesting that, other than you? n/t

[DS1]

49. What kind of half-assed shit-for-brains response is that?

Why does someone other than me have to suggest it, and when did you stop learning to recognize satire?

[Raskolnik]

50. I understand your post was satire. It was poor satire that only attacked a position

that no one is taking in an attempt to look thoughtful. You failed.

[DS1]

51. back on ignore with you, clown

[Raskolnik]

52. Oh, no! But I'll still be able to see your cutting-edge social satire, right?

Please say yes.

[SidneyCarton]

63. I'm a little late to this party I see...

I'm agnostic on the gun issue, so I'll lay that on the table now. I want to know why? Why did he kill her, and why decapitation? Cutting off someones head with a knife is an extremely violent and brutal way to kill someone, and dismemberment is meant to make a statement. If this guy did it he was seriously disturbed, and this act was probably not isolated, were there warning signs?