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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:45 AM
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Very upsetting! (Cats as bait)
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 11:52 AM by Are_grits_groceries
The Save Our Cats and Kittens from Fishermen Society
Rich American fishermen are using live cats and kittens as bait to catch sharks in Venezuela.

http://arbroath.blogspot.com/#top_of_page

There is a video at the link, but I didn't even try to watch it.
I would never stop having nightmares!!
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:48 AM
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1. If I were you,
I'd add something in the title about "Cats as bait" - this needs to be seen.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:51 AM
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2. Did you watch it?? nt
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 11:51 AM by Are_grits_groceries
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:52 AM
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3. You have got to be kidding us
What kind of moran would do such a thing...well I guess I know...But thanks for the link but I think I will skip it.
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:53 AM
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4. More chauvinism.
How about starting a "save our cows" club first. Once america ceases to kill cows, then maybe start criticizing what other countries kill.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:17 PM
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12. According to the video, it's AMERICANS doing it overseas.
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 12:18 PM by Heidi
Does this make any difference to you?

ETA: There's no proof that anyone is _really_ doing this, but I'm still interested in whether it would be okay with you for Americans to do this overseas.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:38 PM
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18. The video looked pretty convincing to me.
I have very little doubt that this outdoors man taped this atrocious act actually occuring.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:20 PM
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28. Actually, the video could easily be a hoax.
If you watch it again, you'll notice that there are no shots verifying the hook being set, or of sharks/fish actually hitting on a swimming kitten. In the one scene where it looks like he's setting a hook, the fisherman "conveniently" angles the cat so you can't actually see it do any damage. In the following scene where the fisherman is holding up the "hooked" cat, the kittens body position suggests that a string may simply be looped around its body.

If cats are being used as bait, I fully agree that it needs to be stopped. I'm just not convinced that this isn't a hoax. PETA ran an anti-fishing campaign a while back where they simulated placing hooks through dog mouths, and ran billboards proclaiming, "If it's not OK for dogs, why is it OK for fish?" This video could be the same thing, only placing cats in the place of worms or other fish (most kite fishing is done using live fish as bait).
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 07:17 PM
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46. Yes, you put a big hook in a cat and it just looks bored.
That's been my experience.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:33 PM
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40. Don't be silly. Only cute animals have rights.
And on the cute scale, kittens are at the top of the list.

How can you be so barbaric as to suggest otherwise?
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:54 AM
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5. assholes
:puke: :scared: :cry:
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:56 AM
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6. I wouldn't be against using rich asshole Americans as bait.
Or just as shark food. It's win-win. Sharks get fed, less of the ugly Americans.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:57 AM
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7. I could not watch it
:(

I forwarded to as many as possible though
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:02 PM
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8. Jesus Christ!!!
That poor, wet, shivering kitten. I'd like to castrate those fuckers!!! :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:07 PM
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9. I watched and its disgusting.
My dog heard the cats meowing for help and he came over to the computer. If they would do this to kittens, they would do it to any animal.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:09 PM
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10. i smell a hoax
when I started watching the video, I got so upset I couldn't watch any more and so stopped the video and went to the website to see what action I could take to stop this atrocity.

Then I see the website consists solely of the video and a link to buy t-shirts. Absolutely no information on the group or on the issue or anything else. Who are they? What activist group provides buying t-shirts as the SOLE means of action?

And sorry to stereotype, but that guy in the video looks more like a gangster than an activist environmentalist documentary filmmaker.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:13 PM
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11. I was just on the website too...
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 12:16 PM by bunnies
And I agree with you. Something is definitely not right. PETA would be all over this.

and on edit: The video never shows a fish swallowing one of the kittens, nor does it show the kitten actually being 'hooked'. All we see are cold, wet kittens in the water for 5 seconds. Glad I watched the whole video. This could definitely be a hoax.

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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:22 PM
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14. Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if this was PETA - considering that a typical
shark bait is a fish, this fits right in with the 'sea kitten' campaign.

The 'sea kitten' bit was the little set-up jab, and 'bait cats' is the big body blow...
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:30 PM
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16. funny you should mention that.
Sea Kitten was the first thing that popped into my mind. I cant believe I didnt draw that line. Good catch. :hide:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:27 PM
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29. Argh, I'd just managed to forget about that "sea kitten" BS.. *twitch* (nt)
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:32 PM
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17. me too. there was a similar story about dog bait a while back that I'm pretty sure was debunked.
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 12:36 PM by aikoaiko

looking now.

But it wouldn't surprise me to learn that this is true.


eta: Well, the dog bait story is not as debunked as I thought. http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/sharkbait.asp

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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:20 PM
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13. I call bullshit
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 07:44 PM
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47. Of course it's bullshit
It's obviously aimed at people who have more emotional attachment to cats than good sense to see through the hoax.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:24 PM
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15. Just that logo is saddening.
I don't wanna go to work today. I just wanna stay home and cuddle with my kittehz. :cry: :loveya:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:55 PM
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35. I'm pretty sure it's a fake logo. But, any excuse to spend some time with the catz
is fine with me.

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moez Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:39 PM
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19. At least it's only a cat....
If it were a dog, or something remotely loveable.... like even a friggin' rat, THEN I'd be outraged!

But,a cat? Well, knock yourselves out...
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 01:24 PM
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21. How do you rationalize cats being inferior to rats or dogs?
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 01:25 PM by Heidi
Or perhaps you forgot the sarcasm tag?

ETA: Or perhaps you're being intentionally insensitive to other members of the DU community who love and are loved by cats?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:31 PM
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:33 PM
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24. New shooter! New shooter coming out!
:D
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:50 PM
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33. I finally didn't miss one!
:)
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moez Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:52 PM
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34. Where?!
Can I watch too?!
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steelyboo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:59 PM
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26. Listen, Toilet Spoon
I know that your pathetic life can only seem fulfilled by demonstrating online how much of a douche you can be in an attempt at "humor", all the while trying to be as hateful as possible so you can get a little rise out of that Vienna Sausage between your legs; this is a given. But what I can't understand is your hatred for cat owners. Did a little old lady kick your ass for trying to fuck her cat . . . again?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:43 PM
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steelyboo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:25 PM
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38. You're Welcome Toilet Spoon
I want to personally thank you for interrupting your mental circle jerk around the computer with your like-minded douchy pals (I'm kidding, you could not possibly have friends) to continue your one man show (for a one man audience of you apparently). Oh, how I've waited with baited breath for you to demonstrate to the world once again, that given enough hate and patience, you CAN teach a turd how to read and write.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:27 PM
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30. I'm not a 'fat chick' or a 'crazy old lady'.
Actually I'm an middle-aged asshole with a bad attitude most of the time, and happen to be owned by six kitties.

And if I ever personally witness someone abusing a defenseless animal, there would be hell to pay.



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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:56 PM
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45. Congratulations.
You have just won DU's "Biggest Asshole" Award.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:39 PM
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20. LOL
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Belial Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 01:41 PM
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22. Go to Snopes.com and look up "dogs as bait" same theme
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:38 PM
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25. I could actually see using cats as bait
if you were hunting progressives, judging by the prevalence of ailurophilia hereabouts!

But otherwise... :grr: :banghead: :nuke:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:03 PM
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27. What are they fishing for? Catfish?
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 04:08 PM by L0oniX
:evilgrin:

What they are doing is disgusting to say the least.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:48 PM
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32. Can you find the "Save our cats and kittens society"?
I really hope you checked this out before posting it because it's VERY upsetting.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:07 PM
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36. I eat meat, but I personally find the behavior to be disturbing.
Fishing with cats is no more unethical than eating lobsters or crabs which have been boiled alive.

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:13 PM
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37. Don't let the Lounge find out.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:28 PM
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39. Money making hoax
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:33 PM
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41. Navin Johnson donated a million.
Said it was worse than cat juggling.
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Belial Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:38 PM
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42. This seems almost as bad as the Bonzai Kittens
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:41 PM
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43. And yet, activists have had no luck stopping the inhumane practice...
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 05:46 PM by lumberjack_jeff
... of feeding fish to cats.

I think fish need fur.

Freakin' evil genius on the part of the owner of "saveoutcatsfromfishermen.com" though. He's going to make a KILLING off adsense revenue.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:55 PM
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44. With Chinese food sales down, stray cats have to go somewhere
:shrug:


I think it's a Hoax
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 08:30 PM
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48. I've seen other video of this using both live dogs and cats
it was being done somewhere in the Pacific, IIRC. Not by Americans but by the people of some island there. Horrible beyond belief. There was some organization trying to stop it and part of that included writing to the French government. I believe the island was a French protectorate or something. Sorry, wish I could remember better but I chose to block that horror out of my mind as much as possible.
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