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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:03 PM
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Man fathered four children with daughter, didn’t report deaths of three
A Harrisonville man who authorities said fathered four children with his 19-year-old daughter and did not report the deaths of three of them was charged today in Cass County.

Danial “Danny” M. Rinehart, 47, faces numerous charges, including murder in connection with one of the deaths, child endangerment, rape, incest and abandonment of a corpse.

His wife, Linda Rinehart, faces one count of child endangerment.

According to court documents filed in support of the charges, another daughter called police from a Harrisonville Wal-Mart on Oct. 3 and reported that her father had been having sexual relations with her sister and had fathered four children, three of whom had died.

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Then on Jan. 1, new residents of the house at 24200 S. Taylor Road in Harrisonville reported finding two coolers — one a large blue cooler, the other a smaller maroon cooler — with what appeared to be human remains inside. The coolers were behind a recreational vehicle inside a garage.

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According to the court documents, the first child was born in 2004 and was buried in Oklahoma. The last child was born in 2008.

more . . . http://www.kansascity.com/703/story/997702.html
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:06 PM
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1. Dear God.
:cry:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:07 PM
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2. WTF!?!? nt
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:11 PM
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3. WTF is wrong with people?!
:grr: :cry:

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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:14 PM
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4. She is 19 and the first one was born 5 years ago
when she was 14?

He should never see any daylight again.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:19 PM
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7. And his wife KNEW
and did nothing.

She is guilty too, IMO.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:37 PM
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8. It sounds like his wife had serious emotional/mental issues of her own.
"During questioning, when she was asked why she continued to stay married to her husband even though she knew what was happening, she became upset and stated she wasn’t good enough to find somebody else, according to the court records."

I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that she suffered from long term physical abuse from her "husband." In the process she lost any sense of self-esteem or dignity.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:57 PM
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I appreciate what you're suggesting, but
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 02:57 PM by enlightenment
I'm getting a little tired of the women getting a pass in these situations.

Sometimes, they are just as sick and perverted as their husbands - so self-involved and wrapped up in their own 'love' for their spouses that they don't have one jot of real concern for their offspring.

I'm a woman and I'm not buying the 'woman is never responsible' routine. Sometimes they are - and frankly, I suspect sometimes they are also smart enough to claim emotional problems to deflect criticism away from themselves after their husband is caught/turned in/whatever.

Look at this story. Read what the daughter says about her mum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7838886.stm

Describing her feelings towards her mother, Miss D added: "She should have come and spoken to us when he was found guilty.

"I was hoping for her to come over and say to me and my sisters 'I am so sorry this has happened' and maybe just have put an arm around us and given us a cuddle, but no.

"She never did that. She was just interested in him. She stands by him to this day."


edited to correct spelling
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:02 PM
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19. I agree with you, he probably has serious emotional and mental problems
too... it is clearly NO EXCUSE for any parent to abuse or allow abuse of their children. I would say at least half the prison population has suffered severe abuse and suffers severe psychological consequences from it. It is BS that because she is a woman she does not have any personal responsibility, she should be charged too. He is more disgusting, sure, but both are disgusting criminals who tortured and sexually abused a child.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:11 PM
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20. I Would Suggest
that in some circles this kind of behavior is not totally abnormal. If the parents are raised like this, they obviously will see no problem with raising their own kids like this. And so on and so on and so on. What kind of parents will these kids be? Especially if this behavior goes unreported, which it does in most cases. It's like any other abuse.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:02 PM
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29. yes, but remember that to explain something is not the same as excusing something. n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:27 PM
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24. Look at the generational consistency in these paragraphs from your link.
"It was two years ago, in the heat of a family argument, that she told her 16-year-old son who his father was.

She said: "He couldn't believe it and he just had a cry. I left him sobbing - I should have given him a cuddle but I was shocked I had said this and I just went to the police station and reported it."

Describing her feelings towards her mother, Miss D added: "She should have come and spoken to us when he was found guilty.

"I was hoping for her to come over and say to me and my sisters 'I am so sorry this has happened' and maybe just have put an arm around us and given us a cuddle, but no."

I believe in both cases they lost the ability to give love or empathy as their own self-esteem or respect evaporated, probably due to the withering effects of long term abuse.

I'm not suggesting all women should get a pass and no doubt some of them cynically claim abuse as a means of defense. However I don't believe that means a legitimate defense of abuse doesn't exist.


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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:50 PM
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27. I didn't say it never constituted a legitimate defense.
I said (repeatedly), 'sometimes'.

You're certainly entitled to believe that the mother of those women lost the ability to give love or empathy because she was a victim of long-term abuse. There is nothing in the article (or any other article about this particular case) to suggest that she was a victim of long-term abuse, but I suppose she could have been. I am not inclined to believe it without some evidence - nor am I inclined to disbelieve it.

I guess what provokes me is the instant fall-back to assuming that a woman is not capable of being a shyte unless she has been pushed by circumstance to become one. And that is the fall-back position. The father perpetrated the crimes and was tried, convicted, and sentenced. The mother, who did nothing even when her daughter told her about the abuse, gets off without so much as a slap on the wrist.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:53 PM
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28. You're correct and I agree, it was just speculation on my part based on their statements.
Peace to you.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 06:57 PM
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32. In retrospect (which is worth not a lot),
I realise the tone of my post was unnecessarily harsh and abrasive. It was not my intent to attack you in any way; my apologies for doing so - inadvertent or not.

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:32 PM
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25. I've said it before and I'll say it again:
The much-vaunted "maternal instinct" is probably one of the most false, damaging, and pernicious memes in all of human thought. The plain fact is that not every woman is cut out to be a mother (or man to be a father but fatherhood isn't mythologized to the same extent), nor should we assume that she will always put the interests of her children first.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:15 PM
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5. Oh dear lord.
:(
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:18 PM
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6. Great. Doing his part to steal the creepy crime capital title back from Austria.
:eyes:
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:43 PM
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9. Abandonment of a corpse?
Never heard of that crime before. I guess it makes sense that it's a crime, but I sure never heard of it. Sounds like one to use when they're throwing the book at mafiosi.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:44 PM
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10. What is it with the appartent
surge in heinous crimes against children?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:23 PM
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22. Is it a surge or do we just hear more now because of the Internet
and better enforcement/training for people to recognize signs.

How often was this sort of thing reported in small towns all over that news media didn't cover, but make the internet within hours of being posted?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:45 PM
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11. sick! That poor girl.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:47 PM
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12. Speechless
:nuke:


:scared:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:47 PM
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13. Damn, that sounds like a V.C. Andrews book.
:puke:

I hope they put him in a cell and lose the key.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:49 PM
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14. THIS IS WHY ROE V WADE CAN NEVER BE OVERTURNED
hiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:52 PM
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15. Amen
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:55 PM
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31. PRECISELY! n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:57 PM
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16. "It takes a village ..."
... to ignore this. "I don't want to get involved." "Leave them alone - they're creepy." :puke: :puke:
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:58 PM
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17. Life. No Parole.
Next case...
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 07:01 PM
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34. In the cell way way way at the back of the prison.
You know, the really really old one with the leaky roof and the toilet that gets clogged up all the time. Just slide a few moldy bread crusts and some brackish water under the door every couple of days and get out of there.
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:01 PM
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18. Good God on a tricycle....what is wrong with people?!?!?!?!?!
the mother knew?!?!?! The dad needs to fry and the mom needs to be jailed for screwing up those kid's lives.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:16 PM
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21. Fine, Except
that this Dad was probably once a cute, innocent, little boy being abused by HIS family member(s) in any number of unspeakable ways. Ditto Mom. I'm not excusing it, but having worked with similar people, you start to realize that the Dad you want drawn and quartered was once the darling son he's been molesting, and that darling son will one day have a good chance of being the Dad somebody else wants drawn and quartered.
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CraftyGal Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:39 PM
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26. Hopefully that never happens to the young boy.
I saw a comment about Roe v. Wade and I find that shocking. I am a pro-choice women however as I was the result of incest, in some ways I am glad that my birth mom didn't have an abortion or I wouldn't be here. I have had many struggles to deal with this however not everyone who is abused or born of incest will become a "monster". With counseling and support that shouldn't happen. I also know several people that have overcome the abuses in their lives to become loving, caring and respectful parents. So please do not lump everyone into the same kettle of fish. Not everyone becomes their environment.

CraftyGal
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 07:11 PM
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35. I am so sorry to hear that. It takes a lot of guts to admit something like that
on a public forum.

Re I am a pro-choice women however as I was the result of incest, in some ways I am glad that my birth mom didn't have an abortion or I wouldn't be here. I have had many struggles to deal with this however not everyone who is abused or born of incest will become a "monster".

I'm sure you aren't a monster. I don't think anyone here is suggesting that this pattern is inevitable or set in stone, only that the odds tend to favor it. Most abusers were abused as children, but it doesn't follow that every single person who was abused as a child becomes an abuser later in life.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:26 PM
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23. there are lots of sick people in this world.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:02 PM
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30. I guess this doesn't just happen in Austria then. n/t
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 07:00 PM
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33. I'm speechless. It's just too horrifying for words. n/t
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