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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:42 AM
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I've got this itching feeling that Blagojevich might become an hero on /The View/.
It's happened before on live television.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:45 AM
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1. it would be good for ratings so I wouldn't be suprised.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:47 AM
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2. He's got a bit of charisma
fer sure
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:47 AM
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3. He's already my hero
Anyone who can be that beautifully nuts in public more than once gets my vote.

I can't wait to see what he does next. I can't figure out if he's seriously goofy or if he's working on an insanity defense for his criminal trial - if he ever goes to trial.


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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:59 AM
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8. I give him many props for ruthless shrewdness.
I wish we had some more of that at work among the good guys. Up till Blago, I thought only republi-CONS played chess like this. He sure outmaneuvered Harry Reid.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:15 AM
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9. It may be possible
that he's also out-maneuvered Patrick Fitzgerald.

It's fun to watch, though.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:42 AM
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14. He wouldn't be the only one who outmaneuvered Patrick Fitzgerald.
The cheney/rove contingent did a mighty nice job of it, too. Frankly, I was expecting far more from him on the Plame case, considering his reputation. Patrick Fitzgerald is not the invincible juggernaut he was made out to be.

Now if we had Vincent Bugliosi on the case instead... (at least where it applies to the bushies...)
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 10:17 AM
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17. No, you're being too hard on Fitzgerald
Trust me, he did everything that could humanely have been done on the Plame case. He was outmaneuvered before he even began because of one very simple reason that wasn't obvious to civilians (I spent a lifetime as a Washington lawyer), and that is that the law he was charged with enforcing is so terribly drafted and so narrowly drawn that it's almost impossible to bring anyone up on its charges.

Not surprisingly, the law was drafted by Victoria Toensing, who is the rightwingnut wife of the rightwingnut Joseph deGenova.

Bugliosi wouldn't have gotten anywhere, believe me. It's a lousy law.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:14 PM
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22. Dang - you need to warn me next time so I can have an antacid ready nearby.
The vile, smug, sinister, and still-out-there-slithering victoria toensing!! :puke: :puke: :puke: And that hack husband of hers! OY!!!!

Yeah, point well taken. Still seems to me he was outmaneuvered. That last time when rove was able to huddle with his lawyer because somebody tipped him off - maybe Fitzgerald shouldn't have given him FOUR TIMES to adjust his story. A once-over would have been sufficient. Maybe a second revisit. But I believe it was FOUR times rove was allowed to go back to "fix" his testimony. COMPLETE AND UNDESERVED OVERKILL. I understand about making sure you've given the accused or the suspected a generous opportunity to represent themselves as well as possible so you circumvent the success of any appeals and all that. But did he really deserve being cut that much slack?

Full disclosure here, too: Not a lawyer. Don't even play one on TV.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:24 PM
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23. No, Fitzgerald operated out of an abundance of caution,
which is always the prudent path. Witness how he's screwed it up with Blago by jumping the gun on an indictment before he had his case prepared.

It is always better to let a grand jury hear all the versions of a story from a witness; that way, you're not going to run into any surprises if you go to trial. Rove was just being treated like anyone else, honestly. And if there had been anything that might have been chargeable, believe me, DC grand juries are notorious for their courage in going forth. I've always respected them. A lot.

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:47 AM
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4. Muss that magnificent hair?
Uh-uh. Won't do it.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:48 AM
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5. I think the guy is seriously cracking up. These media appearances will be disturbing.
The "cowboy" presser was when I really felt like this man is in mental jeopardy.

These spots will be like stopping at the carnival freak show.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:53 AM
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6. Oh, please let this end!
Why do politics in my state have to be a three-ring circus? The republicans do it with Alan Keyes and Da Coach. Why do Democrats have to do it, too? We are weakening our party.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:57 AM
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7. yeah, but...he quotes poetry
and the hair...

:)
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:25 AM
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11. We gave them Obama.
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 02:26 AM by tritsofme
No matter what can be said about Illinois politics, always remember that we gave the world President Obama.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:29 AM
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12. He's not the only one.
Paul Simon, Adlai Stevenson (all the Stevenson's), Lincoln, and countless others who work at the state and Federal level. When they come from Illinois, they know no middle ground. They are either jailbirds or statesmen.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:18 AM
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10. Uh, it indicates that he has 'very strong friends' who work below /(above?)
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 02:21 AM by Mind_your_head
"discernible decibel levels".

edit to add/correct and suggest: (above?)
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:32 AM
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13. Alongside.
He still has a few supporters. And he is a canny politician. He came up through the Chicago machine. His father-in-law, whom he has fought with in the past, runs the machine in Chicago. But Democratic politics in Illinois are very much a family matter.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 03:23 PM
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18. He might, but I don't think he'd need them in this case.
I think a lot of shows would jump at the chance to present this spectacle. He probably had his choice of shows which he could appear on.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:44 AM
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15. an hero?
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 02:45 AM by blogslut
As in an hero?

It's happened b4 but The View is taped. :evilgrin:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 03:18 AM
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16. lol an hero
I really shouldn't be laughing but I am.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 04:06 PM
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19. That is what he is on the show for. He's trying hard to manipulate the public.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 04:22 PM
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20. And what are the charges against him?
I know he has been charged with trying to sell the former Senate seat of Barack Obama? But has anyone seen the evidence? I would like to believe that the media and the politicians are correct but they are not beyond throwing anyone under the bus if it serves their purpose. Is it a crime for just being an asshole? How much money has he put into his account since he has been Governor?
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That Is Quite Enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 04:34 PM
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21. That'd be seriously fucked up. I hope he doesn't try anything like that.
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 04:37 PM by That Is Quite Enough
They should put him under watch.
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