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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:23 AM Original message |
Is it time to consider a four-day work week? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. That's unfeasible for some jobs |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Four day work weeks |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Again, it wouldn't work for teaching professions |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Most high schools do not use block scheduling -- and |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. With the teaching profession, school could go year round with more |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Going year around would actually add hours to the teacher's work year |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. What is wrong with teachers teaching year round. I currently work |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. There's nothing wrong with going year around |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. What is your experience in education? |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
62. I have family who are teachers. AND I hear their stress, but its as stressful |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Another idea, have two teachers for subjects.. this allows teachers to do their |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Many teachers use the summers to complete their continuing education requirements. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. as a staff bedside nurse, I was lucky to get one week off in the summer |
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Shiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not unless they double my pay |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. If you need dental services you can't afford check with your local colleges |
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Shiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I've been looking into that, actually |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. I don't understand why we still have the "business day" |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. I would say, what would be better is to cut the time in each work week. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. I hear ya. I was so worn down by my 34 years in the workforce that when |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
6. I been working a 4 day work week on and off for over a year. Less |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Thanks for your responses. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Multi-generational debt? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. France is giving up on that approach |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
8. We went to a four day ten hour work week |
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meowomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
12. As a nurse I love my 3 day work week. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:10 PM Original message |
As does my daughter. She also picks up extra shifts and makes some serious money |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
13. In most IT jobs a 40 hour week would be almost part time. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
15. Ultimately I don't think it would produce more jobs |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
18. So does everyone now working full-time get to take a 20% cut? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. All the doomsayers were saying the same thing when we went from a six-day workweek to a five |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Well, damn. I was just thinking the same thing myself and here it is in the last post I read. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. That's what came to mind when I read the replies. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Sure, many, if not most jobs could, but what are you going to say to those who take a pay cut? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Why assume that the formal push for a 4 day week wouldn't include wage compensation? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. So then we would be asking employers to raise their wages? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Yes, I honestly think that would fly. |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. But that "offset in operational costs"... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Well, yes, a productivity increase would also be a good aspect of such a plan. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. It's time to stop "asking" employers anything. They've failed |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Yea in my work experience, Fridays are a huge waste of time |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
29. My employer won't consider it |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I wouldn't propose any drastic reduction in pay. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. The work week for many is still 60-80 hours |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Well, if businesses and offices are only going to operate 4 days/week.... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yes ...it's about time we change to the Euro way which has worked for a long time. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
33. It's way past time to switch to a 4 day work week for many reasons like global warming. nt |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. 4-10 schedules result in lost prodcutivity, 4-5-9 is better |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
42. So everyone gets paid less, and everyone produces less. |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. No. The rationale here... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. it would be a negative benefit to the wage payers |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. everyone does not produce less |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Is it just me or is there something hinky about those numbers? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. it is an increase in production if the plant continues to operate 24/7 |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. It's in the profit margin on labor cost. Example: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:15 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Example with fewer staff assuming productivity loss: |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
44. I think it is time for us to work less |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Ummm |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. a panacea, no, but a positive step, yes |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. What would be ideal is to have the economy begin producing enough jobs for everyone who needs work |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. some of that takes time though |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I'm not getting through here :( |
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GCP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
47. Britain is considering a 3 -day work week during the current cisis |
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ChazII (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
55. Some of rural school districts |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
57. Why couldn't it be optional? |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I'd support that |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
63. You might be interested in this: |
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shintao (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
65. Not in a Capitalist System |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:39 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. How'd we get from a 10-hour day to an 8 hour day, then? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:49 AM Response to Original message |
68. I've been working a 4 day work week for years |
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