gregory....'john mccain would have closed guantanamo too'

[spanone]

oh really david? how the fuck do you know that?...and you speak it like it's a well-known fact.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. he wasn't in control of his party

he would be told that he couldn't

[spanone]

2. yep, he would have gone to the pentagon and they would have said 'no'

[Trajan]

3. Didnt McCain, during his campaign, say explicitly that ....

He would INCREASE the operation at Gitmo ?

I seem to remember that .... I could be mistaken ...

[Stevenmarc]

4. Yeah he would sent Palin over to pick off the detainees from a helicopter

[ErinBerin84]

5. agree with you guys

they would have said no, and he would have said "oh, ok" . Even if he supports Obama closing gitmo, he already said that he "thinks Obama is moving too fast" on it.

[Fleshdancer]

6. hmmm....if true, this would work in our favor when debating the topic

I personally don't remember what McCain said about Gitmo during the campaign, but if he promised to shut it down then republicans don't have much of an argument right now.

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[PCIntern]

9. interesting post...

looking forward to watching...

:popcorn:

[Caliman73]

10. Lost?

:popcorn:

[Fleshdancer]

11. ROFLMAO!

Time to put down the oxycotin Rush.

:rofl:

[immoderate]

12. Counting down...

:popcorn:

--imm

[Contrary1]

13. Too bad the boy king couldn't run for a third term, huh? n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. We lost big time with dubya & Dick 'shoots guy in face' cheney, these past 8 yrs!

I don't know what you bu$hco supporters were thinking, really I don't. :shrug: You screwed up! Thanks for nothing!

[Ioo]

8. I think he bases that on McCain comment this week that it was a good move (NT)

[Lex]

16. Yes, McCain even wrote a letter supporting Obama's move to close Git-mo.

nt

[underpants]

15. Gregory allowed 61-detainee falsehood to stand unrebutted on Meet the Press

Gregory allowed 61-detainee falsehood to stand unrebutted on Meet the Press

http://mediamatters.org/items/200901250006?f=h_top

Summary: On Meet the Press, host David Gregory allowed Rep. John Boehner to repeat the falsehood that, in Boehner's words, "we've already found" that 61 detainees released from the detention facilities at Guantánamo Bay are now "back on the battlefield." In fact, the figure, which comes from the Pentagon, includes 43 former prisoners who are suspected of, but have not been confirmed as, having engaged in terrorist activity. Moreover, even the Pentagon's claim that it has confirmed that 18 former Guantánamo detainees have returned to the battlefield has been questioned by experts.

Gregory did not note that according to the Pentagon, the 61-detainee figure includes 43 former prisoners who are suspected of, but have not been confirmed as, having engaged in terrorist activity -- detainees who have not been "already found <...> back on the battlefield," as Boehner asserted. Indeed, as Media Matters for America noted, during a January 13 press conference, Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell stated: "The new numbers are, we believe, 18 confirmed and 43 suspected of returning to the fight. So 61 in all former Guantanamo detainees are confirmed or suspected of returning to the fight."

Further, the Pentagon's definition of "returning to the fight" has been challenged by some analysts. As CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen noted on the January 23 edition of Anderson Cooper 360: "eturning to the fight, in Pentagon terms, could be engaging in anti-American propaganda, something that's not entirely surprising if you have been locked up in a prison camp for several years without charge." Bergen further stated: "hen you really boil it down, the actual number of people whose names we know are about eight out of the 520 that have been released , so a little above 1 percent, that we can actually say with certainty have engaged in anti-American terrorism or insurgence activities since they have been released. ... If the Pentagon releases more information about specific people, I think it would be possible to -- to potentially agree with them. But, right now, that information isn't out there."

[tsuki]

17. Gregory has already stated that it is not his responsibility to report "facts." nt

[sutz12]

18. Closed to the public. He meant closed to the public...

and the media, and the Red Cross.