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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:10 PM
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No case files for Administration to review re: gitmo detainees... Un*********believable
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 12:24 PM by Windy

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_01/016597.php

THIS EXPLAINS A LOT.... Hilzoy reported on this overnight, but I don't want the news to get lost in the shuffle. It's one of those breathtaking stories that is almost too painful to believe.
Upon announcing his plan to close the military detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Barack Obama also began a process that would review the case files for every detainee. The problem for the new administration, however, is that there are no files.

President Obama's plans to expeditiously determine the fates of about 245 terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and quickly close the military prison there were set back last week when incoming legal and national security officials -- barred until the inauguration from examining classified material on the detainees -- discovered that there were no comprehensive case files on many of them. Instead, they found that information on individual prisoners is "scattered throughout the executive branch," a senior administration official said. The executive order Obama signed Thursday orders the prison closed within one year, and a Cabinet-level panel named to review each case separately will have to spend its initial weeks and perhaps months scouring the corners of the federal government in search of relevant material.
Several former Bush administration officials agreed that the files are incomplete and that no single government entity was charged with pulling together all the facts and the range of options for each prisoner. They said that the CIA and other intelligence agencies were reluctant to share information, and that the Bush administration's focus on detention and interrogation made preparation of viable prosecutions a far lower priority.

I mention this, in part to help resolve some lingering confusion. On the one hand, the Bush administration released some detainees who apparently turned out to be pretty dangerous. On the other, the Bush administration refused to release other detainees who weren't dangerous at all, and were actually U.S. allies.
How could this happen? In light of these revelations about the lack of files, it starts to make a lot more sense.
But to put this in an even larger context, consider just how big a mess Bush has left for Obama here. The previous administration a) tortured detainees, making it harder to prosecute dangerous terrorists; b) released bad guys while detaining good guys; and c) neglected to keep comprehensive files on possible terrorists who've been in U.S. custody for several years. As if the fiasco at Gitmo weren't hard enough to clean up.
I'm reminded of something John Cole said the other day: "The moral of this story is not the danger for Obama going forward with his Gitmo decommissioning, the moral is that when venal, shallow, small men are given unfettered power and authority, they do incompetent, stupid, and evil things."
—Steve Benen 9:45 AM

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:18 PM
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1. That is amazing.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:23 PM
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3. The bush administration....criminal and incompetent.
We here at DU have known this for years, but the continuing revelations never fail to take your breath away...
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:22 PM
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2. Link goes to a 404
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:23 PM
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4. I would get that CIA to deliver or go to jail. How can you torture someone for information
and not keep the information?

Unbelievable crime against the citizens and those in prison.

We should immediately explore what this really means if they are released and if they participate in any terrorism anywhere in the world - it is Cheney, Bush, and Rumsfeld's fault and all their assistants even if a Cabinet member - like RICE or TENET or POWELL or ASHCROFT or MUKASEY or GATES of HAYEDEN and several layers down.

The terrorists are our leaders.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:25 PM
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5. Link fixed...sorry. And gee, why isn't the media talking about this!!!
What an uphill battle obama has with the media over the next four years
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:30 PM
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6. They had files
They just shredded them all.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:57 PM
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12. Yep, Darth pulled his back out moving them around!
The incompetence of these thugs is stunning.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:30 PM
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7. Deleted
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 12:31 PM by meowomon
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:32 PM
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8. We're just scratching the surface of the real Bush administrations...
... miscarriages of justice. Illegal wars and torture are just the beginning, it seems.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:43 PM
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9. They used to say about Watergate that the real crime was
in the cover-up. This bunch has made the Nixon people look like a troop of Cub Scouts. Everything they did was a crime and everything was covered up as soon as it became expedient to do so. Jesus Christ. :wow:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:49 PM
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10. I refuse to believe there are "no files" or that the files are "in disarray". .
If this is what the incoming administration has found.. then the files that were there were destroyed and the ones that remained were scattered and similarly messed up.

This is no accident or case of carelessness. These people KNEW they could be in jeopardy eventually.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:52 PM
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11. I think Mr. Obama is being stonewalled by the Military
I do not believe the US military can be trusted to put the best interests of this nation ahead of their own.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 02:07 PM
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13. I don't see how we go forward without an investigation
I realize Obama's administration probably doesn't want the added headache of investigations on top of their already full plate, but I don't see how we have much of a choice at this point. This is FUBAR.
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