Sweet Jesus you HAVE to see Limbaugh's latest rant

[MajorChode]

It seems the fat junkie wants the stimulus to fail so "conservatives" will have a better chance during the next election.

Obama’s plan would buy votes for the Democrat Party, in the same way FDR’s New Deal established majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule, and it would also simultaneously seriously damage any hope of future tax cuts. It would allow a majority of American voters to guarantee no taxes for themselves going forward. It would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy. Put simply, I believe his stimulus is aimed at re-establishing “eternal” power for the Democrat Party rather than stimulating the economy because anyone with a brain knows this is NOT how you stimulate the economy.

So basically what the fat junkie is saying is that buying votes with tax cuts (which mostly went to the rich) is OK, even though that policy put the US in the toilet economically, but a plan like the New Deal or Obama's plan is bad because it will work.

You would think Limbaugh would have learned his lesson with drugs when he went deaf.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/25/limbaugh-obama-stimulus/

[polichick]

1. Has anyone here ever met a thinking person who listens to this asshole??

I haven't.

[liberal N proud]

4. Unfortunately I have

They repeat the shit and hate he spews and proudly call themselves ditto-heads.

They usually are very ill-informed individuals but bold enough to regurgitate his filth

[Warren Stupidity]

7. that does not describe 'people who think'.

[liberal N proud]

12. Exactly

Lazy minds. They would prefer to let someone else do it for them.

[treestar]

10. I know a lawyer who did

And believed all the right wing economic stuff.

So I guess you can still be smart enough to pass the bar exam while simultaneously being dumb enough to think Rash Limpbo is right.

[MajorChode]

39. It's easy to be a Republican when you are deriving significant personal benefit from it

[treestar]

41. I don't think he was - he was a Joe the Plumber sort who thought

he'd be rich if it weren't for all that darn government regulation.

Lawyers are generally liberal - even those who work for the big corporations defending them know they wouldn't have a job if they couldn't be sued as often, so are tacitly against things like tort reform.

[MajorChode]

42. There's lots or pretenders out there

Joe the non-Plumber is an excellent example. They think they will be rich someday so they want the deck to be stacked in their favor when they get there. The thing they are not smart enough to realize is the stacked deck is what is preventing them from getting there in the first place.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Yep, two people

one a certified ditto head...

The second a History prof who called him the most dangerous man in America since Father Coughlin... hell I used to listen to the man as an exercise in propaganda and how you spread it. Rush is a master of populism in the same vein as Coughlin was, and just as dangerous

[Kber]

16. Technically yes,

but only as enemy research.

And I have a politically liberal aunt who used to have a crazy commute between Toledo OH to Northern MI every Friday / Sunday night and she's listen to Rush to keep her awake.

Said it was hard to fall asleep behind the wheel while simultaneously cursing at the top of her voice.

Never met someone who agreed with Rush who I'd consider anything other than an incurious, below average intellect.

[Shiver]

38. Your aunt is awesome

[Fla Dem]

45. You have to understand the mentality of his listener.....

They may be very smart in different ways, but they have a common dislike; minorities. Whether they are Hispanic or black. His followers buy into the rest of his rhetoric because he can get away with saying things they wish they could say. Who else in the entire world could get away with airing "Barack the Magic Negro"? He also plays into the well established RW position that the left does not support our troops and are weak on defense. But he avoided any military service because of a boil on his ass. He will on occasion, just to keep the base close, espouse some idiotic remark implying the left is Godless. This from a man who probably hasn't set foot in a church in his adult life.

I know people who have been seriously hurt financially by the last 8 years of the Bush policies. And yet they continue to believe that if the rich and the big corporations are taken care of, the wealth will trickle down to them. None of my attempts to show them the holes in that argument will change their minds. Limbaugh has them brainwashed and right where he wants them.

[DailyGrind51]

48. Doctrinaire libertarians listen to Rush and Boortz, believing that taxation is theft.

[Orrex]

2. Limbaugh's description of it makes me more certain than ever that it's the right way to go

Thanks, Rush!

[NJmaverick]

3. The MUST get the blow hard off Arms Forces Radio

it's bad for the troop's morale

[Warren Stupidity]

5. yes it has been all over the news. Obama even commented on it.

Can't have a successful gummint program 'cause that would wreck the theory that we have to trust the vastly rich to take care of things as democratic government (small d) is incapable of regulating our affairs. Woe is them. Unlike last time (92-4) they can't just obstruct recovery programs as they did healthcare reform or else they risk another congressional wipeout in 2010.

[MajorChode]

19. I think we've just about seen all the GOP's bag of tricks

They really are bankrupt when it comes to ideas AND dirty tricks these days.

People are finally starting to figure out that the GOP is only about making the rich richer at the expense of everyone else. It's sad that both foreign and domestic policy in the US had to take a header before everyone finally woke up. I truly hope that the GOP can be crushed to the 3rd party level in the next few years. If you think about it, they really haven't enjoyed any real degree of power in this century for any length of time. Their 6 year run from 2001 to 2007 is actually the longest period they have had full control of the executive and legislative branches since before WWII. I'd love to see them stay irrelevant for at least another 50 years.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. Pharmaceutical index predicts a Rush on drugs. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. I'll have to give it to him... he does get it

the New Deal kept the GOP out of the WH for forty years

If ( and I hope this works) this plan passes and works as advertised... the GOP can kiss the WH goodbye for at least a generation, if not two... that is fifty years.

He gets it... and from his POV this is an absolute disaster.

[louis-t]

14. I thought Eisenhower was a repug.

That would only be 30 years.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. For Rush and his ilk Ike is not a repug, but a RINO

Republican in Name only

[jaundicedi]

15. Actually it was only 20.

Remember Eisenhower?

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Again for Rush and his ilk Ike was a RINO

Republican in Name only

Remember the interstate program? I mean the gall of that socialist

(Yes I remember Rush saying that about the Interstate program back in the day)

[MajorChode]

20. Even during Eisenhower the Repugs only controlled the congress for 2 years

Just when they were getting started, McCarthy fucked it up for them.

Both Bush and McCarthy will go down in history as the two that drove the GOP bandwagon off a cliff.

[louis-t]

25. Oops, I said 30. Where's my calculator?

[The Wielding Truth]

9. Rush wants to ruin this country. We need protection from his mouth!

[jaundicedi]

13. It makes perfect sense

for a man whose loyalty is to his party and not his country.

[louis-t]

21. My latest message to the Limbaugh listeners:

"One thing GWB proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, giving huge tax breaks to corporations and tax cuts to the wealthiest 1 percent absolutely DOES NOT CREATE JOBS." They have no answer, no evidence that I'm wrong. Most end up lowering their heads and agreeing. I still see LTTEs that claim "all the evidence shows" or "it's been proven time and time again" that repug ideas work. Ya just wanna slap them.

[MajorChode]

22. Actually supply side was proven wrong when Reagan was in office

History always repeats itself when people don't learn from it.

By the time Bush got in office Leisure suit Laffer had already been discredited by all serious economists, and still Bush revived the old failed supply side ideas.

[louis-t]

26. Supply side 'seemed' to work in the 80's

Economy was already expanding. Repugs greatly overstated the impact. Why is it that at the end of 8 or 12 years of repug WH, the economy is always "bottomong out"?

[MajorChode]

35. Supply-side said tax revenues would increase with a tax cut

so long as you are on the right side of the curve.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Laffer-Curve.svg

We went into a deep recession right after Raygun cut taxes also. Raygun tripled the federal debt, so it was obvious that supply-side DIDN'T work even back then.

After stagflation was whipped, Volcker(appointed by Carter) reduced the interest rates which actually caused the economic upturn in the 80's. This had nothing to do with supply-side economics. It was demand-side Keynesian economics at work.

So the wingnuts took false credit for Volcker's successes, just like they took false credit for bringing down the Soviet Union. That's what Repugs do. They blame all their failures on others and take credit for the success of others. What else can you do when you have no ideas of your own that work?

[jmowreader]

23. The evidence DOES show that...

Come on. You get one guy who makes shit up and publishes it. 300 repukes reference the original lie. 3000 repukes reference the referenced original lie. And on and on. Eventually you've got a perfectly sound academic paper trail, marred only slightly by the fact the original statement was a lie.

You can eventually get down to the original piece and prove it's a lie, but by then you've got people so invested in it they won't accept it's always been wrong.

[MajorChode]

31. The original piece was a paper napkin

Leisure suit Laffer wrote out his asinine curve on a paper napkin and handed it to Cheney and Rumsfeld during a lunch they were having together back in 1974.

For wingnuts it was a dream come true. They could finally justify cutting taxes on the rich WITHOUT cutting government spending and somehow magically tax revenues would actually increase. The wingnuts finally had a "legitimate" economist who was telling them exactly what they wanted to hear. The only problem was Leisure suit Laffer was a joke to all of his peers and was widely regarded as an idiot. At the time, competent economists were all saying it wouldn't work but the wingnuts didn't want to hear it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve#Context_in_U.S._history

[jmowreader]

52. Now, now...

As a sterile academic exercise the Laffer Curve works fine. In the real world, it doesn't work for shit. And since Laffer is an ivory-tower economist who probably can't balance his checkbook...

Contrary to Republican belief, "tax and spend liberalism" is what works. I've written here a number of times the basic truth of economics: asphalt creates wealth. The government pays for the asphalt. The oil company that makes the bitumen profits. The asphalt company that mixes it with sand and gravel profits. The construction company that spreads it on the roadbed profits. Their employees take the money they're paid for doing all these things and spend it on cars, houses, washing machines, T-bone steaks or whatever else they might want. The retailers' employees put gas in their cars so they can drive on the new road, which also increases sales at tire salons, car washes, oil change places and stores that sell plastic Jesuses.

This also makes the rich more wealthy, because they own the asphalt companies, tire salons and T-bone steak restaurants.

If you just cut taxes on the rich, stockbrokers profit because rich people tend to invest small (to them) amounts of money like tax cut revenues. They already have a big house, a yacht and two Mercedes-Benz automobiles.

[MajorChode]

54. I'm not convinced the Laffer Curve works under any circumstances

It was never based on any sound economic principles to begin with. It makes assumptions that are ridiculous. For instance, Laffer claims the higher you tax someone, the less incentive they have to work. He makes no effort to prove that assumption (which isn't true), then he builds the rest of his argument around that false assumption. It's nothing more than strawman rhetoric and bullshit disguised with pseudo-scientific irrelevant information.

[treestar]

28. If it creates jobs, it creates them in China and India

These idiots who listen to Rush need to be unemployed before they'll believe anything. That's the rub. What jobs do they do that they feel so secure, even now, is the question.

[jmowreader]

53. Think again.

If a Limbaugh listener loses his job in the next year, it will be Obama's fault. (And not, y'know, because they were caught betting the petty cash on the horses or coming to work drunk.) If he lost it any time in the last eight years, it was because of Clinton's policies that are just now coming to fruition, or the Nancy and Harry Show in Congress.

Remember: EVERYTHING is the Democrats' fault in Limbaugh's perverted worldview.

[hologram]

24. All politics and power grabbing all the time.

It's all they know how to do. They just want to be the bosses of everything (so they don't have to work for a living).

[DCKit]

27. If the Republics had made us all wealthy, their tax-cuts would have ensured Repuke rule forever.

They screwed up and are paying the price - marginalization and repudiation of not just their policies, but their entire reason for being.

See how that works Rush?

[Lint Head]

29. So. Rush Limbaugh is a pedophile?

Doesn't Rush Limbaugh like to take Viagra and travel to the Dominican Republic and have sex with children?
If Rush Limbaugh is a pedophile shouldn't he be prosecuted? Just asking.
:dem:

[Touchdown]

30. That is a very serious charge! Rush should make public all of his arrest

records, just to show that this isn't true. We need to know exactly where he was, who he was with, and what he was on, or this question will not go away.

Come on Rush. This question of you being a PEDOPHILE can easily go away when you release your arrest records, submit to drug testing for any toxins, and an anal examination just in case you bottomed for any of these children.

You don't want your name tarnished, do you?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

51. you can do a search of his public records

there are investigative agencies - on the internet that can pull up the
arrest records on people.

Its a small fee.

[Touchdown]

57. Those are obviously doctored records, as anyone with font knowledge knows.

No. his REAL records are still sealed and under wraps from public view. Why? What on Earth does Rush have to hide? That he is a junkie pedophile?

If he only releases ALL his records, and not those obvious fakes already out (is that why he went to Haiti? Was The Dominican Republic just a red herring?) all this would just go away!

[immoderate]

33. I have heard, though I can't confirm, that Rush is a pedophile...

The world wants to know.

--imm

[Ikonoklast]

34. Is that true? Is Rush Limbaugh really a junkie pedophile?

If someone accused me of being a junkie pedophile like Rush Limbaugh, I would be concerned enough to state publicly that I was definitely not a junkie pedophile like Rush Limbaugh.

I wonder if Rush Limbaugh will ever come out and address the issue of his alleged pedophilia. We already know that he is a junkie, which he vociferously denied, even though it turned out later to be true.

[treestar]

43. One shouldn't call Rush Limbaugh a junkie pedophile

Unless one knows there is evidence that Rush Limbaugh is a junkie pedophile.

But if there is evidence that Rush Limbaugh is a junkie pedophile, such accusation could be discussed and contribute greatly to the determination of whether or not Rush Limbaugh is a junkie, a pedophile, or both.

[SmileyRose]

32. Pusbag has already said he plans to help destroy this country.

The pusbag really does hate Americans so much that he'd rather see us all dead than to have his radical group not have ALL the political and social power. Actually, that said, I do believe he'd rather see everyone but the bazillionaires dead anyway.

[Rex]

36. Gush still pushes the GOP garbage.

SSDD.

[mod mom]

37. His buddy Ken Blackwell opposes creating new jobs because it will help Democrats

WHY DO THEY HATE AMERICA?


l Opposes New Jobs Because It May Help Democrats
Submitted by dpotts on Sat, 01/17/2009 - 10:08pm.

We all already knew that Ken Blackwell was an idiot, but it may be worse than we thought. As ThinkProgress points out, Blackwell used his most recent TownHall column to preach against the proposed economic stimulus package. But get this, he actually went beyond the typical conservative "big government" BS.

While only a few details are known, one overlooked issue is that it could create a major electoral advantage for Democrats at taxpayer expense. That would be unacceptable for what is being touted as a nonpartisan measure, and gives Republicans yet another reason to oppose it if not restructured. <…>
But most federal employees, that are not political appointees, vote Democrat. Since Washington, DC is the seat of government, whenever new federal bureaucrats are created many live in Maryland and Virginia. In 2008, Virginia went Democrat for the first time since 1964, and Mr. Obama won it by 130,000 votes. Creating 600,000 new jobs might help cement Virginia in the Democrat column, making it harder for Republicans to retake the White House.

Creating new jobs is a bad thing, because it might make Virginia lean Democratic. Uh, okay. Sure. Damn, I really thought it would take them longer to catch on to our plans to win votes by actually solving problems.

You keep on watching that belt buckle Ken. We'll all still be cheering you on as you run the RNC into the ground.

http://buckeyestateblog.com/ken_blackwell_opposes_new_jobs_because_it_may_help_democrats

Blackwell: GOP Must Defeat Job-Creating Stimulus Because It Will Ruin GOP’s Election Chances»
In an article published on Townhall today, RNC Chairman candidate and former Ohio governor Secretary of State Ken Blackwell urges congressional conservatives to oppose thereinvestment and recovery stimulus plan promoted by President-elect Obama. Though he offers standard conservative arguments against the plan — including a screed against the growth of “big government” — Blackwell seemed most concerned about the political benefit Democrats might see from successfully boosting the economy.

He warned that the bill, which calls for 80 percent job creation in the private sector, could create 600,000 new federal jobs — a problem because it would make it that much harder for for Republicans to win back Virginia:

While only a few details are known, one overlooked issue is that it could create a major electoral advantage for Democrats at taxpayer expense. That would be unacceptable for what is being touted as a nonpartisan measure, and gives Republicans yet another reason to oppose it if not restructured. <…>

But most federal employees, that are not political appointees, vote Democrat. Since Washington, DC is the seat of government, whenever new federal bureaucrats are created many live in Maryland and Virginia. In 2008, Virginia went Democrat for the first time since 1964, and Mr. Obama won it by 130,000 votes. Creating 600,000 new jobs might help cement Virginia in the Democrat column, making it harder for Republicans to retake the White House.

Blackwell cites House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) as his source for the 600,000 “bureaucrats” figure. In fact, Obama’s council of economic advisers predicts that the plan would create about 240,000 government jobs, compared to, for example, 700,000 in mining and construction. And of course, there’s no reason to assume the bulk of government jobs would be created in the D.C. area, though the District — which has the 6th highest unemployment rate in the nation — could use the new jobs.

-snip

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/16/blackwell-blocks-jobs/

[quaker bill]

40. It is this simple

If wealth ever was found to be trickling down and away from the wealthy, the wealthy would hire a team of experts to put a stop to it. In fact this is true, because when this occurs in the real world, it is exactly what they do. There is an entire industry devoted to "wealth management" and the entire goal of the profession is to see to it that wealth continues to trickle up.

Virtually no one starts a business because they just so happen to have a larger than usual tax refund or a few extra bucks in the bank. They do not start businesses as a service to the community or to enrich their workers. People start businesses because they believe that they can make themselves far richer by making and/or selling things for a profit. It is simple common sense that when the potential customers have more money, everyone does better.

There is no rocket science here.

[eilen]

44. The cosmic joke is that he was struck deaf when he should have been struck

dumb.

[MajorChode]

49. Too late for that

He went deaf because he was addicted to drugs, which was caused by his stupidity.

[Initech]

46. And giving $600 to certain groups of people is how you stimulate the economy?

[MajorChode]

55. In certain circumstances, it can have a limited effect

However, rampant consumerism is what got us into this mess in the first place. Encouraging more rampant consumerism is not going to get us out and in the circumstances we are now faced with, had no effect.

If we were in a recession caused by money hoarding and lack of consumer confidence, then such methods might work.

[Initech]

58. The only way I could see it working is if we all spent it at the same time.

I remember when the stimulus was being handed out last time everyone here was either pondering putting it into savings or spending it on gas. Is that really how an economic stimulus works?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

47. Who actually pays him?

[Cass]

50. He and all his idiotic dittoheads are rooting for the economic demise of the country.

For that gasbag, it's party before country, to the point that he would rather see a damn depression than give a democrat credit for successfully handling the economic crisis.

Glad he spelled out his priorities so clearly for all of us, although I always knew that jerk was as anti-American as they come.

[yella_dawg]

56. Rush, the human darwin award.

Let's just hope he talks his listeners into failing just to spite the Dems.