Who else saw David Frum on Real Time last night?

[jgraz]

Has there ever been a more clueless, lying bastard? 4 years later, and he still can't admit that he was wrong.

[knowbody0]

1. it seemed as though

Bill wanted to go pit bull on him and had to change the subject. It was intense.

[NMDemDist2]

2. I'm watching it now and Frum is an ass n/t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. damn. my hbo is showing curious george.

I saw only the last half, but the spousette told me he was freakin insane and that the crowd was really on his case.

[NMDemDist2]

10. I TIVO it since I work Friday nights n/t

[napi21]

4. Yep, I watched it. Frum was trying SOO hard to appear to be NICE!

And yes, Bill actually said he was changing the subject because he was getting very angry.

All in all, it was a good show though.

[bluescribbler]

5. Best line?

Bill said, "You were wrong on everything about this war. You have forfeited the right to make prdictions." Or something like that.

:toast: :rofl:

[tulsakatz]

24. I loved that!

that's a good argument too........I mean how can they still try to make predictions with any accuracy when they have been so completely wrong in the past?

Bill was getting angry and rightly so.....

[Blue_Roses]

6. yep,

just talking about him over on the HBO boards. His blinking is nerve-racking.

It was good show. I hope Bill has good security. His closing lines were awesome.

[loudsue]

20. Bill's closing WAS awesome! He and Keith Olberman are

the only ones who are truly speaking TRUTH to power. It's time the entire media started figuring it out.
Ok, I can dream, can't I?

:kick::kick::kick:

[C_U_L8R]

7. High on his own supply

It's amazing and sad how much these creeps believe their own bullshit.
It's the most heartfelt buffoonery every concocted. Stunning.

[devilgrrl]

8. I like how he talks down to everyone like children

BTW, has anything that comes out of his mouth ever been true. Those American Enterprise Instituters are so full of shit.

[jgraz]

9. I didn't get talking down as much as blatant lying

He couldn't even look Maher in the eye. Frum knew what he was saying was complete bullshit and yet he somehow managed to stick to his script.

[City Lights]

11. And then accused and criticized others for doing that very thing.

I couldn't stand how he kept leaning away from the Atlanta Mayor, or how he monopolized the conversation. He was given way too much air time, IMHO. He's an insufferable jackass.

[jgraz]

14. It just keeps getting worse

I posted this while I was watching the discussion on the war. Now he's lecturing the audience on oil companies and global warming. What a complete dickhole.

[newspeak]

25. yeah, I especially like how Frum

stated after Bernie Sanders interview, that it's just all conspiracy nuts who think that the oil or auto lobbies have that much influence in DC. Yeah, nothing to see here so move on folks?:eyes:

[tulsakatz]

12. yes I saw him.........

he was pretty much as I expected him to be. He's been on several times before.......

[opihimoimoi]

13. At the end of the show,,,he was pissed and wasn't clapping

[City Lights]

36. Yep - in response to Maher saying Hillary should say she'll restore honor and

integrity to the WH. Place goes wild except for Frum. :rofl: Poor widdle boy.

[October]

39. One side of his face is so different from the other

I'm serious. Have you ever seen anyone (OK, GWB) whose left side of his face is so different from the right? I've heard tell that the person's left side reveals their inner self, while the right is their public "face." I've seen photos of GWB wherein his left side looks diabolical and right side looks smarmy.

Just an observation. Frum's face is messed up...like his ideology.

[October]

40. Sorry...meant to respond to O.P./nt

[opihimoimoi]

47. A sign of EVIL??? Like in a MARKER?? I could believe that....

Cheney got the same look too...except its his whole face...its all evil....

[Sydnie]

15. I saw it

I don't know if you can still access the after show or not (the Overtime segment he does on the "internets" from his HBO site), but Frum was laying down some shit out the outsourcing of jobs formerly done by the military and how much cheaper it is to contract that out. What a load of crap that was!

[jgraz]

21. You can get the overtime segments on the podcast

I'll check it out later this week -- sometime when I'm not eating dinner. :puke:

[tulsakatz]

29. yes, they have overtime episodes on the website

I saw that too. I missed the first part of overtime but I saw him arguing with the other guy.

Go to: http://www.hbo.com/billmaher and look for the video section

[Warren Stupidity]

16. I had to turn it off.

Zbig was good, but the panel was pathetic. Frum was clearly going to talk rings around the other two guests, spin his odious bullshit, and our good friend Bill was not going to be up on the facts as usual, so Frum's bullshit would go unchallenged. I lasted into Frum's first diarrheal monologue and I turned it off.

[devilgrrl]

23. Yes Frum dominated the conversation but Bill Maher and others slapped him around good

You turned it off too early.

You also missed a great rant at the end of the show.

Your loss.

[K8-EEE]

27. Frum def has that blah-blah-blah tactic

of blathering on and on to confuse the issue and run out the time for rebuttal but it really wasn't working for him...Bill kicked ASS!

[Warren Stupidity]

38. I think they get trained in that.

The talking over tactic is pervasive amoung the rightards.

[K8-EEE]

41. Yes GWB Does It Too, "Let me finish, let me finish..."

Then repeats the same stupid thing he said before you "let him finish!" Also the Tony Snow "let me help you out here" is GWBs "what the American people have got to UNDERSTAND is..."

Frum had the GALL to say Bernie Saunders was speaking to people "like they were children," um, excuse me? "Fight them there or we'll have to fight them here" and all the rest of that nonsensical war rhetoric, it's like they think we're all five years old...

[Spazito]

17. I don't get why anyone would think David Frum is worth either

talking to or listening to. His 15 minutes of fame (coining the Axis of Evil phrase) was over long ago. He has NO credibility in Canada, the country of his birth, he rarely shows up on any news sites or shows here.

It speaks volumes, imo, about the right wing slant of the US media in that they actually give this empty suit any air time.

[frogmarch]

18. It seems that

every time Bill includes a republican on the panel, the republican takes over the whole show, or tries to. Last night was no different. I almost switched channels.

[jgraz]

22. Bill should have had Brzezinski on the panel

or maybe Chomsky. Frum would have been reduced to tears.

[SusanaMontana41]

28. Right on

The Z-Big segment was as powerful as Gen. Eaton's last week. Wish both of them had been in the studio.

[jgraz]

31. speaking of which: has Bill ever had any of the AAR hosts on the panel?

I don't remember ever seeing one. Sam or Rachel (or Thom or Randi) would kick ass.

[SusanaMontana41]

43. I don't, either.

Bill, if you're reading this, how about it?

[jgraz]

45. I know he's been on Randi's show at least a few times

Maybe he could return the invitation.

[Maven]

33. He should have had BELZER on the panel. nt

[jgraz]

34. Heh -- I think Bill wanted Frum to actually live through the show

ETA: If Bill really wanted to be cruel, it would have been Frum, Belzer and George Carlin.

[Maven]

42. Belzer would have ground him up and made Frumplings. nt

[SusanaMontana41]

44. Great idea

Now THAT would be a memorable show. Belzer vs. any neocon/Bush apologist. He's eaten a few alive.

[ourbluenation]

19. How many more people have to die to prove them "right". It's such a high

price to pay for another chance that we all know won't work. but you know what? he knows it too. that's the sickening part.

[K8-EEE]

26. I WANTED TO THROW A BRICK AT THE TV

When he said, "will you take responsibility for the genocide that will happen if we withdraw troops?"

NO YOU ASSHOLE, THIS IS YOUR WAR -- BUSHCO AND HIS APOLOGISTS, TAKE SOME FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR A CHANGE! IT'S ALREADY LOST AND BEEN LOST FOR A LONG TIME....LIAR!

[Blue_Roses]

30. Go to their discussion boards. They have some real zingers on there

http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jspa?threadID=100000092&tstart=0&mod=1174757252911

[jgraz]

35. BLEEARGH -- reminded again why I only post on DU

Aside from the almost unusable format, the quality of the discussion is just scary. Lately I'm thinking more and more that we're just too stupid to survive as a species.

[Maven]

32. I saw him. I was a little bewildered by the composition of the panel

John Legend is a good guy, and the other panelist (the mayor) seemed "nice" too, but they simply weren't up to the task of calling that lying traitor out. Bill called him on a few things, but it wasn't enough. He was given too much leeway to give more of his "opinions," as if anyone should care what he has to say about ANYTHING.

I wonder if they did that deliberately to coax him onto the program.

At least Bill's closing monologue was amazing, which made up for it in the end. Did you get a look at Frum's face at the end? Not happy. :)

[Gabi Hayes]

37. I talked to Frum on a radio show once.

he was pushing his book...his days in the WH

talked about what a takecharge guy the chimp was, what a magnificent, well informed LEADER he was!

I mentioned Mark Crispin Miller's book, which detailed what a narcissistic, ill-informed, cruel jackass Bush was, and basically said Frum was peddling a load that anyone in their right mind should be able to see was just that.

He countered that Miller's book was about Bush's being STUPID, which he was not. The book was exactly NOT about that, and Frum completely mischaracterized it, lying his ass off about it. They wouldn't let me comment on that, of course, because then I could have called him the out and out liar he was.

What little I did get to say was fun, though.

[Oilwellian]

46. The video is up on YouTube

Bill Maher's commentary on Valerie Plame...towards the end of New Rules:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i_gGPK3Z7U