Coulter, Hannity "don't believe" Pat Tillman liked Chomsky, hated Iraq war. Tillman's mother...

[MLFerrell]

Disagrees. From Media Matters (with video): http://mediamatters.org/items/200509290001

On the September 27 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, co-host Sean Hannity and right-wing pundit Ann Coulter told co-host Alan Colmes that they "don't believe" a report that Army Ranger Pat Tillman was a fan of leftist author Noam Chomsky, opposed the Iraq war, and planned to vote for Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) in the 2004 presidential election. But according to a September 25 San Francisco Chronicle report that Colmes cited, Tillman's mother said that he had planned to meet privately with Chomsky and that "Pat was very critical of the whole Iraq war." Tillman, a former pro football star, served in Iraq before being killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan in April 2004.

Responding to Colmes's statement that Tillman "was a Noam Chomsky fan, was going to vote for John Kerry, was against the war in Iraq," Coulter insisted, "I don't believe it." Hannity concurred, saying, "I don't believe it either." After Colmes explained that Tillman reportedly supported the war in Afghanistan but opposed the war in Iraq, Coulter responded, "I think you got that from one of those documents Mary Mapes handed to Dan Rather" -- an apparent reference to CBS' controversial report on President Bush's National Guard service, which was produced by Mapes and relied in part on unauthenticated memos. However, the Chronicle article, which focused on the military's alleged efforts to conceal facts about Tillman's death, quoted Tillman's mother, Mary Tillman, directly:

Mary Tillman said a friend of Pat's even arranged a private meeting with Chomsky, the anti-war author, to take place after his return from Afghanistan -- a meeting prevented by his death. She said that although he supported the Afghan war, believing it justified by the Sept. 11 attacks, "Pat was very critical of the whole Iraq war."

The Chronicle also quoted Spc. Russell Baer, who recalled a conversation he had with Tillman during the March 2003 invasion of Iraq. Baer told the Chronicle, "We were talking. And Pat said, 'You know, this war is so f------ illegal.' And we all said, 'Yeah.' That's who he was. He totally was against Bush." Additionally, the Chronicle quoted Senior Chief Petty Officer Stephen White, who "said Pat 'wasn't very fired up about being in Iraq' and instead wanted to go fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan."






I can't believe that Insannity, the Coultergeist, and myself all are members of the same species. :eyes:

[cooolandrew]

1. So, they don't believe his family I guess. They are something special.

[rfranklin]

2. They make their living by reinforcing the right wing spin...

They don't have to believe it, they just have to say it.

[NanceGreggs]

3. What's the problem here? It's simple ...

Coulter and Hannity know Pat Tillman better than his own mother did ... just like Victoria Toensing knows Valerie Plame's CIA status better than the director of the CIA does.

Get it now?

[MLFerrell]

5. Coming from you, Nance, it's crystal clear.

:rofl:

[cooolandrew]

6. Plus his change of heart makes you quetion the circumstances of his death..

... wouldn't look good if a well known football star spoke against the war espcailly one serving. Not saying anything did occur but it does make you wonder.

[NanceGreggs]

11. Yes, it does make you wonder ...

But Coulter and Hannity KNOW better than anyone - so let's just defer to their better judgment, shall we?

:sarcasm:

[cooolandrew]

7. Plus his change of heart makes you quetion the circumstances of his death..

... wouldn't look good if a well known football star spoke against the war espcailly one serving. Not saying anything did occur but it does make you wonder. The guy gave up a 6 figure career to be there after 911, if he figured that he'd been lied to I imagine he'd of been mader than most.

[cooolandrew]

4. Sounds to me they don't want to believe it once he got there he soon worked out it was all wrong.

[opihimoimoi]

8. The SOB's...they are calling the mother a LIAR?? How Shameful..Despicable even...

[A HERETIC I AM]

9. Coulter and Hannity would probably not believe he wasn't religious, either.

Which apparently, he wasn't. (not that this is news, really) According to his own brother, Mr. Tillman was not at all religious.

http://humaniststudies.org/enews/index.php?id=173&article=3

Interesting when i went looking for the above article i googled "pat tillman atheist"

Several hits to sites that say he is in hell now or "Now he believes in god"

Amazing.

[hadrons]

10. This makes me angrier and sadder about Tillman's death

[paparush]

12. Tillman Theory - (with tinfoil hat firmly in place)

Tillman's death was ordered. Tillman was disallusioned with the war. He was going to come home and provide a HUGE boost to the Kerry campaign. A young, photogenic, war hero, who would come back and articulate the WRONGNESS of the war. Thus...he had to die.

[arcane1]

13. agreed

fragged, and covered-up

[blm]

15. Rove and Bush pictured Tillman speaking on TV and at the Dem convention and

knew that his words would shine light on the media-promoted LIE that the military loved Bush.

[City Lights]

14. Those who mainline Kool-Aid never believe anything that doesn't fit

their deluded version of reality. Piles of facts have no affect whatsoever.

My aunt still believes Nixon was the fall guy, and dismisses Snopes as "just another opinion." :eyes: