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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:20 PM Original message |
Can Hugo Chavez Steal His Way To Safety? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good for Hugo. My heart bleeds for the oil companies. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. "Hands Off The Windfall Oil Profits" by the author of your story |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. And nobody read this article to comment on it? |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Are you denying the reporting in the article? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. "Do you approve of corporate-santioned theft?" |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #54 |
72. Political "scientist", eh? |
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anaxarchos (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
88. "Do you approve of government-santioned theft?" |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
71. this guy is a nut |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. He also seems to be a liar because I found an article that says |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Forbes. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thievery is thievery |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yeah Exxon is your boy huh? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Few understand the long term impacts of such actions |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Boy is that a hard core progressive stance |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Actually there is extensive historical evidence that seizures raise prices to that nation |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I imagine if you asked the people of Latin America, they'd say they've have enough |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. True, but that not the issue here. When Gov abrogate agreements, they find fewer people willing to |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I seriously doubt Venezuela will have any trouble from this at all |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Whether it's true or not? Do you dispute the reporting in the article? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
59. It's really your responsibility to know whether or not you're posting hit pieces, not mine. n/t |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
53. Yes. When a nation goes socialist |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Its not the gov, its the actions they take, fascist or socialist there are repercussions |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
64. That's really deep, by golly. Here's a story on France's Total's expanding Venezuelan operations. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 06:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
92. Nationalization is not thievery |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. good for hugo, screw those texas scumbags |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. he (allegedly) cheated Halliburton?? my respect for him went up another 2,000 points |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yeah, like Hallibuton and Dick Cheney are angels and spread the wealth. |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
9. I got it. Hugo Chavez = BAD Oil companies = GOOD. thanks. eom |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
93. Do you think that only good people deserve the protection of the law? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. Chavez's political structure requires a continuous large-scale influx of cash, |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. Of course. Why should the people of Venezuela... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. That does not excuse the abrogation of an agreement sign with a private company by the gov. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Halliburton should Sue |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Why can't Hugo be more like the Pentagon? KBR electrocutes our service people |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Yes, KBR the stepchild of Halliburton |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Really? Can you really consider what that means... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. It was with the state owned oil company, so presumptively it had his permission |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. South America is not playing by the old neo-liberal rules anymore |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
65. That is a bit mis leading |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. They seem to be reneotiating the contract. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 05:05 AM Response to Reply #70 |
90. Thanks for locating this link. Very helpful. Nothing helps like the truth! n/t |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. Gasp!1 Did Saint Hugo get "elected" for LIFE?!1 What happened?!1 |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Exxon, Haliburton get ripped off |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I love you, Mickey! Scam the oil industry all you can. eom |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. Oil prices going down are hurting the big Hugo. Bet the budget |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Unlike the US |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
78. Chavez is a friggin saint! |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:52 AM Response to Reply #78 |
89. Yeah, that's what I said |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. TG if you ever worked the oilfields. Thievery like this is common place. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. Yeah sure |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Portable housing, heavy equipment, power generators. You name it. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. OK. Load me up that offshore oil platform |
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madville (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. This guy is funny |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. They say he owes them $100 million, he says they owe him the oil rig. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
29. What a douchebag. n/t |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
34. Not only does Hugo Chavez steal everything in sight, he eats babies too!!!!!!!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Yeah! And Venezuela donates heating oil to poor Americans just to piss us off! |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
35. Obama should be taking cues from Chavez |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Brilliant suggestion |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Good idea. I wouldn't mind paying for everything as long as the gov't owned the banks. nt |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
37. It's interesting to see |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. What a gracious host you are, Zorro. n/t |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Wait for me. I didn't get a chance to bleat my sanctimonious Chavista approval |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. hey, they benefit from gov't sanctioned thievery in iraq & the us - losing by it in ven. just |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. So you're OK with government-sanctioned thievery in Iraq? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. then why are you posting on chavez? |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 02:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
61. It's interesting to see the Big Oil defenders trashing a socialist hero |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-30-09 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
42. Meh... get a life |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. OK |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #51 |
67. I agree, one can always use more education |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
46. Fuck Chavez. He's An Ignorant Scumbag. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
66. Right. So ignorant - food and health care for people over oil exec profits - |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
56. Fucking Republican Forbes distortions..."Lavish social programs"...The rich |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Lavish social programs = lunch for school children. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
58. Forbes? I think they invented theft in South Americ. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Duzy! |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
62. Fuck this shithead |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 04:43 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Yes, and the oil companies can do and have done absolutely no wrong. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
68. I thought "Zorro" was a champion of the poor? |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Do you approve of government-sanctioned theft? |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. If there are any "theives" in the story it is the profiteering oil companies |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. If thievery is the only option that will save them from starvation or death, then yes. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. What a huge crock of crap. As I posted above, the contract is now being |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
73. Wasn't it Hugo Chavez who gave free heating oil to Seniors in the Northeast? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Is giving. n/t |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
74. Cool! |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
82. ENSCO shut down operations on the rig |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Exactly. I didn't find it until this morning but that information was out Wednesday |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Well duhhh... |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 01:43 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. You posted a biased hit piece and now you're bitching at me? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. LOL! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
84. One last kick because the OP has not responded to the fact that nothing has been stolen |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-09 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
91. StatoilHydro says Venezuela payments not delayed |
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