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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:22 PM
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Does Rush Limbaugh have blood on his hands?
Josef Goebbels, Hitler's propagandist, probably never killed anyone with his own hands. But had he not committed suicide, he would have been tried at Nuremberg for crimes against humanity. His hands were soaked in as much blood as those who did the actual killing.

We all know that Rush Limbaugh claimed to have a boil on his butt which kept him out of Vietnam. So, (as far as we know), he's never killed anyone with his own hands.

Nonetheless, his hands are drenched in blood. His crimes go beyond aiding and abetting our homegrown war criminals. His lies, propaganda, and well-packaged hatred helped make mass murder possible -- and even acceptable, to many Americans.

Hopefully, someday in the not-too-distant future, we'll see Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, and their fellow murderers standing before the bar of justice.

So I hope you are not sleeping too well at night, Rush. You just might be standing there with them.
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:30 PM
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1. Nah
Nobody lets Rush influence their thinking who hasn't already drunk the Koolaid. It's Bush, Cheney, Dumsfeld, et al, who have the blood on their hands.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:45 PM
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19. Yes. Everyone that's supported Bush/Cheney/Rummie's war has blood on their hands.
Every congress critter, every talking head, every "reporter" that cheerleaded this country into war has blood on their hands, make no mistake.

Without their zealous support, there would've NEVER BEEN a war, and over 4,200 American troops, hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children would've been alive today. Instead, OBL (according to Christiane Amnapour) lives in a mansion in Pakistan like a king, alive and well today.

So yes, Rush does have blood on his hands, but he is only ONE in thousands of Americans that helped Bush&Co allow their bloodshed to happen. That's reality.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:32 PM
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2. We should do to him what was done to Julius Streicher.
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 02:33 PM by backscatter712
He didn't directly kill with his own hands either. But we hanged the son-of-a-bitch, for promoting antisemitic hatred in Der Stürmer. He was found guilty of crimes against humanity at Nuremburg. Good fucking riddance to him.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:34 PM
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3. I feel uncomfortable with charging Rush with a crime,
he should have the right to spew hateful filth.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:55 PM
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6. He does have the right to spew hateful filth
But along with rights go responsibility.

Over 4,000 Americans and unknown hundreds of thousands of Iraqis are dead because of the lies of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld et al.

Does Rush bear any responsibility for being on the front lines of selling the lies they used to implement their war crimes?

My guess is that virtually any district attorney in the country would (if they could) go after him as a member of a critical, deadly criminal conspiracy.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:37 PM
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4. I agree that Limbutt only has the influence that his idiot
enablers allow him, but there has to be SOME accountability somewhere.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:39 PM
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5. far as I'm concerned
murder-enabler.
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:05 PM
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7. Limbaugh got BBQ sauce on his fingers
:rofl:
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:10 PM
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9. Sorry, but I don't find aiding and abetting war crimes humorous
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 05:34 PM
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22. I thought it was hilarious
and please - we came nowhere near an "absolute dictatorship." That is "absolute bullshit." Power was handed to Republicans. They abused it and screwed things up. They lost elections. Power was transferred democratically and peacefully.

Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. He's an asshole, but he has less blood on his hands than anyone who voted yes on the IWR.

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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:08 PM
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8. Sorry, I don't go to bed at night dreaming of prosecuting my political enemies
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 03:09 PM by tritsofme
for exercising their right to free speech.

I just ignore them.

The authoritarian streak on the left is just as dangerous as the one on the right.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:29 PM
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13. So if Josef Goebbels had not committed suicide, he should not have
been prosecuted as a Nazi war criminal?

What you are saying, in effect, is that had Goebbels been captured alive, he should not have been put on trial.

Perhaps you're right. We'll never know.

But please understand that you are making an argument that Goebbels should have been let go. After all, he was nothing more than some propaganda broadcasting radio guy.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:44 PM
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18. Well I don't assert a moral equivalence between the Bush administration and Nazi Germany.
In fact, I find the comparison ridiculous on its face.

When you classify the entire opposition movement in your country as criminals, you are treading down a dangerous path.

Voters impose their own justice, and have spoken loudly in the past two election cycles.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 04:26 PM
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20. "Moral equivalence."
I understand exactly what you're saying tritsofme.

But what I find frightening is how close we came to becoming an absolute dictatorship. It's hard to count the number of Americans who finally dared to exhale and breathe again at noontime on January 20th of this year when Obama was sworn in.

Let me state this plainly: The Bush administration in no way committed the crimes that were committed by Nazi Germany. But can anyone really deny that BushCo was headed down the same path taken by the Nazis?

"Fuck the rule of law, fuck congress, fuck the constitution, fuck habeas corpus, fuck individual rights, fuck privacy, fuck anyone who disagrees with us, fuck anyone who dares to have an independent thought. Fuck everyone but us." This is what the Bush administration was all about.

We were very fortunate to escape the fate that befell Germany once the Nazis took power. But don't ever forget that these people have not gone away. They are still out there, fighting Obama (and therefore us) with every piece of garbage they can pull out of their empty bag of tricks.

To paraphrase a line from "The Terminator," They'll be back.



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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 07:57 PM
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23. excellent post, tritsofme
We should never act in the same manner as our enemies. Rush is a turd floating in sewage but he serves a purpose for us lefties. He helps give the Repugs a bad name in the eyes of the millions of moderate voters.
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SergeyDovlatov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:10 PM
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10. Yes, but less so than those who votes for the war and its continuous funding
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:12 PM
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11. Did He Vote For George Boooosh???
...that's enough in my book to put blood on anyone's hands...especially if they voted in 2004 after knowing how deceitful and incompetent he was.

The worst penalty you could give Rushbo is irrelevance...taking away his golden microphone and his fame.

On your question about a war criminal? While I'd like to put all repugnicans on trial, Rushbo is one of the last I'd send to the Hague. We know Rushbo's game...the bigger criminals were those like Judy Miller and other corporate media stenographers who played as being impartial and were on the Pentagon and boooosh regime dole.

Cheers...
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:22 PM
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12. Prosecuting people for exercising their right to free speak is not right.
Yes there is a point at which speech can be tied to action, however I don't think even Rush quite crosses that line. We are not talking about someone who is standing in front of an angry mob inciting violence. Nor are we talking about someone who is controlling all state media in a dictatorship. This is one of many voices people are exposed to.

Would you also prosecute everyone who voted for Bush?

This is not how we handle problems in a free country.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:30 PM
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14. Of course, he does..does he care?
No.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:32 PM
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15. There is still the El Nino incident.
He claimed that El Nino was invented by Dems. Said it was a crock. People were evacuated from western states, I believe. I've always wondered how many people that listened to rush were killed by the storms?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:37 PM
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16. I believe its more like shit for brains
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:43 PM
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17. I know that Michael Weiner Savage definitely has blood on his hands
I used to listen to him every now and then. He constantly spewed pure hatred towards immigrants and homosexuals. He didn't even try to hide it, or couch it in euphemisms. He might as well be Goebbels reincarnated.
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BanTheGOP Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 04:50 PM
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21. This is why I advocate...
...the investigation and destruction of the republican party ITSELF. NO idiotic ideas would ever even see the light of day without this illegal, criminal organization. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BanTheGOP/17">Without the republican party, we would EASILY re-enforce the Fairness Doctrine through the new MORA act, and Rush Limpball would not be spewing his vitriol to the masses in this regard.

See http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BanTheGOP/59">Return the Fairness Doctrine...NOW!! for more details. In addition, refer to http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BanTheGOP/63">this post with regard to Limpball taking an UNSCHEDULED VACATION coincidentally after Obama gives the riot act to the congressional repugs.
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