New Rolling Stone article about JFK murder

[jcrew2001]

told by E. Howard Hunt - his son claims that Hunt indicated that LBJ was involved as well as the CIA and there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll.

I doubt that LBJ planned the murder, but he may have been involved in the cover-up to protect the public, I do believe there was a 2nd shooter and that the CIA set up a meeting with Oswald in Mexico City with Cuban interests, so that we would overthrow Castro in Cuba.

[JackRiddler]

1. Any links? Is this on the newsstand now?

Apparently this refers to the story now being told by Hunt's sons - however, with a videotape statement by Hunt himself prior to his death.

Prior thread:

E. Howard Hunt's deathbed video revelation on JFK - How will lone-gunman advocates spin it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x461116

[jcrew2001]

2. i just got the issue in the mail

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13893143/the_last_confessions_of_e_howard_hunt/print

The Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt
He was the ultimate keeper of secrets, lurking in the shadows of American history. He toppled banana republics, planned the Bay of Pigs invasion and led the Watergate break-in. Now he would reveal what he'd always kept hidden: who killed JFK

ERIK HEDEGAARD

>> Who assassinated JFK? The conversation continues in our politics blog, National Affairs Daily.

E. Howard scribbled the initials "LBJ," standing for Kennedy's ambitious vice president, Lyndon Johnson. Under "LBJ," connected by a line, he wrote the name Cord Meyer. Meyer was a CIA agent whose wife had an affair with JFK; later she was murdered, a case that's never been solved. Next his father connected to Meyer's name the name Bill Harvey, another CIA agent; also connected to Meyer's name was the name David Morales, yet another CIA man and a well-known, particularly vicious black-op specialist. And then his father connected to Morales' name, with a line, the framed words "French Gunman Grassy Knoll."

So there it was, according to E. Howard Hunt. LBJ had Kennedy killed. It had long been speculated upon. But now E. Howard was saying that's the way it was. And that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the only shooter in Dallas. There was also, on the grassy knoll, a French gunman, presumably the Corsican Mafia assassin Lucien Sarti, who has figured prominently in other assassination theories.

"By the time he handed me the paper, I was in a state of shock," Saint says. "His whole life, to me and everybody else, he'd always professed to not know anything about any of it. But I knew this had to be the truth. If my dad was going to make anything up, he would have made something up about the Mafia, or Castro, or Khrushchev. He didn't like Johnson. But you don't falsely implicate your own country, for Christ's sake. My father is old-school, a dyed-in-the-wool patriot, and that's the last thing he would do."

Later that week, E. Howard also gave Saint two sheets of paper that contained a fuller narrative. It starts out with LBJ again, connecting him to Cord Meyer, then goes on: "Cord Meyer discusses a plot with Phillips who brings in Wm. Harvey and Antonio Veciana. He meets with Oswald in Mexico City. . . . Then Veciana meets w/ Frank Sturgis in Miami and enlists David Morales in anticipation of killing JFK there. But LBJ changes itinerary to Dallas, citing personal reasons."

David Atlee Phillips, the CIA's Cuban operations chief in Miami at the time of JFK's death, knew E. Howard from the Guatemala-coup days. Veciana is a member of the Cuban exile community. Sturgis, like Saint's father, is supposed to have been one of the three tramps photographed in Dealey Plaza. Sturgis was also one of the Watergate plotters, and he is a man whom E. Howard, under oath, has repeatedly sworn to have not met until Watergate, so to Saint the mention of his name was big news.

In the next few paragraphs, E. Howard goes on to describe the extent of his own involvement. It revolves around a meeting he claims he attended, in 1963, with Morales and Sturgis. It takes place in a Miami hotel room. Here's what happens:

Morales leaves the room, at which point Sturgis makes reference to a "Big Event" and asks E. Howard, "Are you with us?"

[jcrew2001]

6. i bought an unlimited subscription from Rolling stone

for just $100 - hopefully the mag will still be around for the next 50 years!

However, it seems most of their articles are offered in full on their website.

[jcrew2001]

4. why did woody harrelson's dad kill jfk?

that's weird

[WinkyDink]

5. IF he did, it was $$$. He was a convicted hired killer.

[jcrew2001]

7. i can't believe those CIA nuts killed JFK and probably RFK

just because of the bay of pigs fiasco and cuba. Its sickening and It seems like there is a vendetta against the kennedy family - who knows if another one makes it the the WH, what will happen.

Maybe LBJ was afraid he wouldn't get his turn after Kennedy would have won 2 terms.

[rasputin1952]

8. Lot of speculation over Harrelson being there, good possibility...

He was a paid assassin in several cases, sort of a Murder Inc. type.

[Mojambo]

3. Can't wait to read it. n/t

[juno jones]

9. The theory is

they killed JFK, partially for political expediency, but also as psy-ops. Great way to give an entire generation post-traumatic stress and be able to fill the void with rah-rah patriot conditioning...9/11 is the same thing in our time. I was born 3 weeks after JFK was killed. Living under this shadow has been surreal, to say the least. Time to peel this all the way back. I do agree with Hunt that the CIA was involved, especially a dude with the initials GHWB....

[FtWayneBlue]

10. JFK refused to back the CIA's Bay of Pigs invasion plans,

and when they went thru with them anyway, he was going to shut down the entire agency. They got JFK because he refused to back the invasion and was going to shut them down. Not saying the entire CIA was at fault, but just the inner circle - and yes, 41 had a part.

(from what I've heard - this makes the most sense to me.)

[dflprincess]

11. There were also those who weren't happy with the way Kennedy

handled the Cuban Missile Crisis. And then there were his apparent plans not scale back our involvement in Vietnam as well as rumors that he might actually start speaking to Castro during his second term.

The interesting thing about Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs, even though he didn't plan it or back it, he publically took responsibility for it when it failed. How very different from this administration.

[jcrew2001]

15. 41 was very young and wasn't even in the HOR yet

so i'm not sure how much he knew or had contacts with those operatives.

[dweller]

12. who is ajweberman, and what does he know?

http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec1.htm

just curious.
dp

[dweller]

14. one snip

PARTIAL CONTENTS OF ONE OF THE MANUSCRIPTS

"When elections are initiated in the USSR, or formulated, a whole hugh (sic) mechanical apparatis is started, not only to ensure victory but to safeguard the state from any voice of dissent, either in abstention or opposition."

my god, Oswald was a freeper?

:o

dp

[PhilipShore]

13. Who shot JFK?

The Nazi Connection to the John F. Kennedy Assassination

http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Nazi%20Connection%20to%20JFK%20Assass.html">Link

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USATODAY/AP: Documents show CIA covered up Nazi war criminals during Cold War

6/6/2006

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-06-06-cia-nazis_x.htm">Link

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The CIA and Nazi War Criminals

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/CIANazis.html">Link

“I think that the CIA has defied the law, and in so doing has also trivialized the Holocaust, thumbed its nose at the survivors of the Holocaust and also at the Americans who gave their lives in the effort to defeat the Nazis in World War II.” - Former congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman

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Conspiracy theory: Doppelganger of the three assassins

King-Kill 33: Masonic Symbolism in the Assassination of John F.Kennedy---
By James Shelby Downard with Michael A. Hoffman II

http://www.whale.to/b/kingkill_33.html">Link

I have stated that the three hoboes arrested at the time of the assassination in Dallas are at least as important symbolically as operationally and that they comprise the "Three Unworthy Craftsmen" of Masonry. This symbolism is at once a telling psychological blow against the victim and his comrades, a sign of frustrated inquiry-- the supposedly senseless nature of any quest into the authentic nature of the murderers--and a mirror or doppelganger of the three assassins who execute the actual murder.

[jcrew2001]

16. If Rudy were elected, he would be the 2nd

catholic in the white house.