Vets in Arizona State Veterans Home A patient's colostomy bag not emptied

[Monkeyman]

No Joke was left in soiled bedclothes

A Arizona State Veterans Home, which cares for the state's oldest veterans, was fined $10,000 after state investigators found cases of "Substantial" patient neglect, according to documents obtained Friday by The Arizona Republic.


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0324veterans0324.html

One more part of article. A patient was dragging herself down the hallway in a urine-soaked nightgown because no one would answer her call button.

[youngdem]

1. If I found a loved one in such a position, I would force feed the bag to the doctor on duty

[Monkeyman]

3. That's why I could not post more thinking about if it was my mother

[roguevalley]

16. they should be monitored and paid well. You get what you pay for.

also, they shouldn't be for profit. ever.

[w4rma]

5. Should force feed it to the board members who cut corners and keep the funding low to keep their own

profits high. I doubt any doctor really wants to work in a place like this, but every hospital and home is being run on the slimest budget possible, these days.

That doctor that you would attack, is usually only the poor shmuck who gets stuck with being the public face for those scumbags who hide behind him in the shadows.

[youngdem]

6. Them too, but a doctor took an oath, and he has a fiduciary obligation to patients

[w4rma]

9. Again. If they don't hire enough doctors then no single doctor can do the job properly.

It is impossible.

The problem is that the board members are sucking as much money out of the situation that they can and refusing to fund enough nurses and doctors with what they want to be their own profits.

[SharonAnn]

10. Doctors don't provide the direct, day-to-day patient care. Congress provides the $$$.

Go to the source of the problem.

[SharonAnn]

11. A doctor has a medical responsibility to patients. Not a fiduciary one.

[Monkeyman]

7. Your Right most of the Time the Doctor is not there

But no one can tell me he or she didn't know how bad this place was

[w4rma]

8. I didn't say that the doctor wasn't there. I'm saying that there aren't enough doctors

and there aren't enough nurses hired to be available to be there when they are needed because of board members cutting corners.

[Monkeyman]

13. Agree with that but let face it they have to know

[blues90]

2. Jesus , don't they have a staff

Or is the staff just a collection of inhuman freaks . Imagine this happening in a regular hospital , it would make the evening news proto .

[Cabcere]

4. Good grief.

:cry: :grr: :puke: How people can do this shit to other human beings, much less those who have risked their lives in service to our country, is beyond me. How much do you wanna bet that those most guilty of neglect were the ones who crowed "support our troops!" the loudest? :grr: Disgusting.

[Holly_Hobby]

12. Kicking this

But it's not news to me. I took an elderly vet neighbor back in the early '90's to the vet hospital in Ann Arbor. The stench was horrible. The building was in deplorable condition. I had old men hanging onto my shirt, begging for help. They were dirty and hungry. The nurses were detached. No one would listen to me.

[Monkeyman]

14. UpDate there is 14 Families Now demanding this home be closed

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

15. This does not surprise me at all

I knew someone who was in the VA who had a feeding tube. The "food" caused diarrhea so they didn't feed him so they wouldn't have to clean the mess

His roommate had trouble swallowing and choked to death on his meds