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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:42 PM
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The man in the ice: His name is Johnnie Redding.
Family: Frozen man was our Johnnie

Relatives identify body found in elevator shaft as River Rouge native, 56.
Charlie LeDuff / The Detroit News

DETROIT -- The dead man at the bottom of the elevator shaft has been identified.

For the record, his name was Johnnie. Johnnie Redding.

Redding died about a month ago, authorities surmise, when he was pushed or fell down the shaft inside an abandoned Detroit warehouse and came to rest in 5 feet of water. The weather turned blue, and Redding would become encased in a vault of ice, his shoes and shins protruding.

The world was shocked to learn that people knew that a man lay below and yet carried on with their own games and grievances, not bothering to inform the authorities. Eventually, someone with a heart called this reporter. Once located, two dozen police officers and firefighters working with chainsaws and guide rope extricated his body.

A wallet was found on the corpse. The identification told investigators the barest of facts. Name: Johnnie Lewis Redding. DOB: 09-29-1952. City of residence: River Rouge.

They know little else. Whether his was death by misadventure or by the hand of another man remains a mystery.

"He is still too frozen to even take fingerprints," said Vanessa Denha-Garmo, spokeswoman for the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office.

The address in the wallet leads to a small Cape Cod in River Rouge, where he once lived with his mother. For the record, her name was Orlene.

The home is now owned by his brother Homer, who along with his sister, Lillian Warren, identified the body late Friday.

Homer Redding, 59, was heart-broken but not shocked by his little brother's death.

According to him, Johnnie was a soft-hearted man who fell into a hard world and could never extricate himself from it, no matter how hard he tried. Johnnie was infected with the need for drugs and alcohol. Rundown buildings were his clubhouse.

"He chose the life for whatever reason," Redding said. "But he wasn't homeless. Please don't call him homeless. He always had a place to go. He was loved."

Johnnie Redding, according to his brother and sister, was one of those men who bounced from odd job to couch to the homeless mission and back.

He lived with his mother in River Rouge, the same house he was raised in, until she died two years ago.

It wasn't always this way for Johnnie. He worked until he was 40 at a local steel mill alongside his father. Then Johnnie's brother Marion died of an overdose.

"That's when I seen the change," Homer said. "He was very close to Marion."

Johnnie began to ping-pong in life. He would do odd jobs: gardening, plumbing, anything to get him through. When he couldn't get through, he would insinuate himself on his sister's couch and then insinuate himself on his brother's couch and then, feeling better, he would get lost again.

"Last time I saw him was in September for his birthday," Homer said. "It was all right. I haven't seen him since."

If the outpouring of phone calls and letters are any indication, then the life and sad end of Johnnie Redding reminds us that even the dirtiest life has value. There are many Johnnies out there: Victor, Kenneth, Terrence, your loved ones are asking about you.

And if you should judge Johnnie Redding harshly, his brother Homer said, remember that no man deserves to go ignored at the bottom of an elevator shaft.

"We've got to live in the world together," Homer said. "And we got to care about each other."

You can reach Charlie LeDuff at (313) 222-2071 or charlie@detnews.com.

Link: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090131/METRO08/901310382

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:45 PM
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1. heartbreaking...
"the least of these"
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:48 PM
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2. Am glad this was followed through.
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Tindalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:50 PM
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3. RIP Johnnie
He probably never know how many lives he touched.

Thank you for posting the follow-up. Such a sad story.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:54 PM
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4. This story has been fascinating
I'm glad they identified him though. It would have been very sad for his brother to never know what happened to him.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:02 PM
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5. "Please don't call him homeless. He always had a place to go. He was loved."
That's so touching. Think of all the people wandering around out there and the family that wonder about them. Very moving. Thanks for posting this update.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:39 PM
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6. thank you for the update.
"We've got to live in the world together"...........truer words have never been spoken.

Peace
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:48 PM
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7. Thanks for the update...
I am glad to see the coverage of this tragedy has not disappeared. His family certainly cared deeply about him and have a very compassionate view of the plight of those like their brother.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:52 PM
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8. This is so sad.
:cry: I feel so bad for this man and his family. Everybody is somebody's brother, father, mother, sister, daughter or son. Everybody. I'm glad that he was loved by those family members while he lived. But nobody deserves to end like this. Or to have such a tough time during their life as this sounds like, either.

Those people who knew his body was there and ignored it are unimaginable. That's scary, what people have devolved into.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:01 PM
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9. k&r for Johnnie, thank you.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:46 PM
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10. Every life has value...Everyone was once someone's sweet little baby.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:51 PM
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11. "He chose the life"
I wish people would stop saying drug addicts "choose" to be addicted.

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 05:19 PM
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12. And it's irrelevent anyway, As a human he deserves dignity at the very least.
No matter what the circumstances.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:49 PM
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14. Yes, but ...
... when the word "choose" is used, it makes it easy for some people to ignore humanity.

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:57 PM
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15. Yes, I agree. It's part of the whole divide & conquer thing. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 05:22 PM
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13. Yep. You don't choose addiction or mental illness. It chooses you.
I expect to read a similar story about one of my former BIL's any day. And, with one son out there, maybe about him, too.

At least this family finally got an answer.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:58 PM
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16. Saw that. Sickening.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:01 PM
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17. Horrible story.
"We've got to live in the world together, and we got to care about each other."

Homer Redding gets it.

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:06 PM
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18. Yes - I liked his other quote
"But he wasn't homeless. Please don't call him homeless. He always had a place to go. He was loved."

People forget that this could happen to any of us. And it shouldn't happen to anyone.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:15 PM
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19. People do forget.
Sadly, I think a lot of them may have reason to remember in the immediate future.

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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:47 AM
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20. K&R n/t
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:33 AM
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21. r.i.p.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 09:34 AM by Blue_Tires
there is something poetic about this tragedy...

link to the original story (and photo)
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090128/METRO08/901280491/1439/METRO08
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:36 PM
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22. K&R n/t
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:27 PM
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23. Charlie LeDuff
Charlie LeDuff was the reporter who originally got the tip on this and investigated it, got the authorities to act, and brought the story into national view. He vowed at the time that this man would not remain anonymous, and that his story would be heard. He kept his word.

"Please don't call him homeless. He was loved."

What sort of Hell have we now descended into?
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:17 PM
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24. TA, you were the one who brought us this story at SI and I think
Charlie would appreciate that. There's nothing wrong with religion, but imho, too many are looking for salvation in all the wrong places & ignoring the humanity right in front of their faces.

We need to be talking about folks like Johnnie, and figuring out how we can work together to do better.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:35 PM
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25. "What sort of Hell have we now descended into?" The GOP Dream. n/t
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:05 AM
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26. radio interview transcript
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 12:07 AM by Two Americas
NPR interview with Charlie LeDuff.

Q: When did you get that call?

A: You know, it seems like a million years ago. I guess... three days ago.

Q: Why did the caller phone you, instead of the police?

A: It was a friend of the guy who actually found the body, and they were afraid that the police would haul him in, question him, maybe consider him a suspect - he was also trespassing. In Detroit we have thousands of abandoned buildings, this just happens to be one of them, and it has a big basement filled with about five feet of water, so they were actually playing hockey down there. So these were hockey players, they see these legs and think "we've gotta do something about it," so I get the call.

Q: So you went to check it out?

A: Check it out, yeah, partly out of curiosity, but also I don't want to call the police if it is a hoax. Sure enough - there it was.

Q: Do you mind telling us what you saw?

A: It was odd. It was two legs, blue jeans, black sneakers with fresh laces, and really odd - clean white socks. Now, the shins and the feet were above the water, and the rest of the man was encased in a foot or two of ice. The feet were on a pillow. Almost...peaceful. What a violent death. He fell through an open elevator shaft... or was pushed? Or dived? They don't know. He is at the medical examiner's office and they can't conduct an autopsy until he unfreezes. He was living next to...I started inquiring about him, and there are a lot of homeless people living in this building, and people knew he was there. For a month. Nobody called the police.

Q: A month?

A: A month. So I called 911 - twice - and they apparently sent someone out there, but couldn't find the guy. I never got a call back, so I went there the next day and he was still there. So I called again. Then the firefighters showed up and at great risk to themselves, they took chainsaws, and ropes and ladders, and gave the guy a measure of dignity, and took him out of that Hell-hole. I am trying to figure out who he is. He is somebody's baby, right?

Q: Yes, everybody is somebody's son. Sometimes a story like this is painful. But this can get people to wake up. Pay attention. Take action. Do you get the sense that that might happen?

A: I hope so. I am getting a lot of email. It struck people. Maybe this will spark something. We'll see. I will stay on it. I will find out who he is. This should be more than just a media sensation. I will research and give him a decent obituary. He was somebody.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:17 AM
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27. Thank you TA - we need more Charlie LeDuffs in this world. I sent him an email
thanking him for not only calling the authorities but also telling the tale, and hope that everyone who reads this thread will do the same.

You can reach Charlie LeDuff at (313)222-2071 or charlie@detnews.com .
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