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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:40 PM
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What is all the talk “The Dems Pork Barreled the Stimulus Bill”
Rush LimpDick and his minions, (what few are left) are salivating at the thought of the economy getting worse and Obama, and the Dem’s failure to stimulate the economy. They are already gearing up to blame the failure of the plan on the Dems for “Pork Barreling the Stimulus Bill”

I haven’t read the bill.

Any truth to that? When the unemployment rate hits double digits with no relief in sight are we going to have the Fux News / Corporate Media Blitz proclaiming the Dems screwed it up.

More importantly – will they have 100s of Billions of Pork Barrel spending to blame it on
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:45 PM
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1. It's simple: anything not a tax cut is automatically classified as pork.
No matter what it is or how much better it will work for the economy than yet another tax cut.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:45 PM
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2. Human beings are "pork" to men who think the economy
runs from the top down and the only help available should all go to institutions, not human beings.

It's why they were defeated. It's why we need to keep reminding people why they were defeated.

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:45 PM
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3. Someone today said the head of the GOP was that fat drug addict, Rush Limbaugh....
.... I paraphrased that lol In any case, who was it that made allusion to that?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:48 PM
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4. It's all about their definition of "pork"
I think throwing money at Haliburton was pork but you know none of them would agree with that. LOL
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:50 PM
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5. Ding Ding Ding - We have a Winner !!!!!!
Love that comparison
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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:54 PM
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6. The politiconauts don't really understand the economy
they loaded the "stimulus" bill with their own prioritys, some useful, some probably not, and some preposterous. They should start with help to those who really need help - the poor. With 819 billion to spend, they could help every poor American into the middle class and still have plenty left over for their stimulating notions.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:55 PM
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8. Good post!!!
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:33 PM
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11. But if the whole mess began with Home-Foreclosures
Then why such a small percentage applied to help out working families who are losing their home.

Without help, these same families will end up needing government assistance anyway
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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:02 PM
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14. Yes indeed, why bail out banks and not people?
The most needy should be first priority, the most greedy can wait a little.
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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:37 PM
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12. Good point.
The only stimulus (emergency) bill that I will support right now is one that is entirely geared to 2 important issues: J-O-B-S and helping (with controls) business owners stabilize themselves as well as creating incentives for new entrepreneurs to create more businesses.

And hopefully the stimulus bill includes clear rules on business owners paying this hand-out back in a reasonable amount of time. This also includes our government doing it's homework on which businesses/entrepreneurs seem viable enough to support. Given, no matter how careful they are, any stimulus bill is a financial risk. However, they should still carefully review who gets how much American money and why. Our country was founded on businesses and companies of all sizes, along with their employees, and that is where our money and incentives must be put.

These 2 elements are key to a strong economy -- namely, start with businesses that will then provide jobs; fewer companies, fewer jobs. And one of the major problems happening to us right now is that so many Americans are not only losing jobs, but they are losing them due to companies down-sizing. And even worse, due to an increase in companies closing. The result being there are now more employees looking trying to finds from a smaller pool of jobs.

And this does not mean bailing out large companies who clearly mismanaged their monies and now expect taxpayers to foot the bill for their mistakes (that is one of the principle rules of capitalism and competition: you do your job as a business owner/owners the best you can, and with luck, you make it or you don't. I esp. do not support giving our monies to companies when they have shown a pattern of doing the same the thing (mismanagement) over and over again.

I do not support Obama's stimulus bill. I've looked it over and there are some good things about it as well as many things that are not good. And I esp. do not support it's $819 billion dollar price tag, that has been listed as the largest ever in our history for one bill regarding regarding a stimulus package. And this is on top of the recent bailout/hand-out expense to taxpayers for the Wall Street bail-out totaling, after all the additional pork was added, to over $850 billion.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:53 PM
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13. But what of the Home Foreclosures
That is what started this whole mess and is a key factor in the current unemployment numbers
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:03 PM
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15. Bingo, it seems the bill is loaded with pet projects
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:55 PM
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7. When employment hits double-digits we will have a war and full employment with free uniforms!!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:56 PM
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9. to these guys. "infrastructure" = "pork". . unless their brother-in-law
stands to rake it in.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:06 PM
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10. Damn it, the Republican governors aren't calling it pork they are
calling it "the other white meat".
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:25 PM
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16. Of course, they have no problem flinging barrels of pork to the Pentagon and it's subsidiaries.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 09:25 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
Not that the Dems are any less shy about giving the house to the likes of Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, and the other "Masters of War".
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