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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:34 AM
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Am I the only one who doesn't care if the stimulus package NEVER gets rethuglican support?
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 10:44 AM by liberalitch
Or are there others?

They rolled over us,... why should I care if we work with them.

Obama can do in 2010 what FDR did in 1934,.... campaign like hell against everyone who voted against the New Deal. Especially those in states that "went blue"
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:36 AM
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1. I assume you mean you *don't* care?
I know I don't. The Dems don't need the GOP to pass shit. The fact that they are continuing to worship at the altar of "bipartisanship" is giving me fits.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:45 AM
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5. You would be correct.....
And I am a bad typist.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:46 AM
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6. Agreed, the less they work with them the better. They have not
reformed in any way. Why should we move closer to what they want when they don't move closer to what we want. We are the ones with the support of the majority of voters, not them.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:39 AM
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2. Question sense not. Perhaps doesn't?
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:40 AM
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3. Pass the stimulus. Leave the republicans chanting their mantra.
Hopefully, the American people will get it.
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:41 AM
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4. Didn't this happen to Clinton as well??
The pigs didn't vote for Clinton's Budget in 1993. Oh yeah and look at what happened in the 90's
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:52 AM
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7. I want a stimulus package that
includes me.

I pay taxes but the income is not derived from traditional employment wages. An additioinal $20 a week not being withheld from a paycheck doesn't do shit for me.

Any plan that doesn't benefit folks like me is discriminatory.
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Blue Dog Dominion Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:04 AM
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9. Wha sort of taxes do you pay
If you don't pay employment wages?
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:23 AM
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10. There are lots of sources of taxable income that
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 11:24 AM by Coyote_Bandit
do not come from traditional employment. Self-employment, unemployment, social security, pension, disability, royalty, lottery and gambling winnings, other retirement or investment income. Any tax stimulus that rewards those with empoyment related income while penalizing those with taxable income from other sources is outright discriminatory.

I pay quarterly estimated taxes on some combination of self-employment and investment income. I am long-term unemployed and those earnings are inadequate to meet my basic living expenses - and because I have assets I am ineligible for any kind of assistance. My income is highly variable and I have no idea what those earnings will be until year end. If I underpay the tax liability I get to pay an IRS penalty. The only sure way to avoid that penalty is to pay estimated taxes in an amount equal to the prior year tax liability. I apparentluy am shit out of luck with respect to this stimulus package. If there is any benefit to me it will not be seen or calculated until I file my 2009 taxes in 2010. Fuck that.
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Blue Dog Dominion Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:28 PM
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11. Yup. Bend over and apply the vaseline
Sorry. You got screwed.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:05 PM
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12. I
do not support this economic stimulus package which I view as a complete and utter waste.

The best way to invest in our economy is to rebuild infrastructure and create jobs by supporting and encouraging the creation and ongoing viability of new and small business. Why not increase SBA funding and make Medicare coverage available to new and small business employees and their families? This would be a direct investment in job creation here in the US. Unlike a transfer of funds to taxpayers who might choose to save those funds or use them to retire debt or buy imported stuff. That kind of crap will have zero positive effects to the US economy.

Too bad I don't see any proposals forthcoming that would actually have a long-term impact in creating a more productive economy. All these tax rebates do is perpetuate an economy based on consumer spending while increasing our national debt. But I'm not surprised.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:00 AM
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8. I don't care if anything ever gets Republican support
Then when these things get passed anyway, and our economy and situation starts to improve, let people see that even though Obama reached out to the other side and they spit on his hand, things DID get better in spite of their partisan efforts to derail it.

What I'd especially like to see is people who voted Republican actually benefitting from Democrats' efforts to improve their lives.

Oh, what a dilemma that should cause for them, eh?


:evilgrin:
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:16 PM
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13. The pugs got us into this mess, why consult them on how to get out?
Their ideas a PROVEN failures.

As far as I'm concerned, the stimulus bill doesn't go nearly far enough. We should revoke all tax cuts the rich received and up their taxes higher than BEFORE 2001 as a means of reparation. Taxes on capital gains and dividends should go back to the highest marginal tax rate.

We don't need more of Bush economics, we need more of the economics of 1993 which gave us prosperity and tax surpluses.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:27 PM
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14. I'm hoping it doesn't - and so is Obama...
because then, when it works, we show them for the incompetents they are, and Democrats get a deathgrip on DC.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:59 PM
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15.  I don't care what repuke bastards want at ALL
they had their chance and they ran America off a cliff - fuck them all
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