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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:09 PM
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Could the auto loan interest tax deduction be coming back?
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 07:15 PM by liberal N proud
Uncle Sam wants you to buy a car
A few plans floating through Capitol Hill are trying to get consumers back in the driver's seat.

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Last Updated: February 2, 2009: 5:06 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- With auto sales at crisis levels, Washington is trying to figure out how to get Americans buying cars again.

Several ideas are on the table, but two of them are really making the industry pay attention. One plan is to make new car costs tax deductible. The other is to give rebates to Americans with old cars so they can better afford to buy new ones, a program otherwise known as "cash for clunkers."

Tax deductions
It would be an "above the line" deduction, meaning even tax filers who don't itemize deductions could still get the benefit, according to the bill introduced by Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., and Rep. Bill Pascrell, D.-N.J.

Auto loans of up to $49,500 would qualify. Car buyers borrowing more would still be able to deduct the interest and sales tax for the first $49,500. The benefit wouldn't apply to individuals making more than $150,000 or families making more than $250,000.

The deductions would save a car buyer about $1,300 on the purchase of a $25,000 car, according to a statement by Pascrell's office.

Cash for clunkers
The second plan is more politely known as "fleet modernization." It combines economic as well as environmental goals in one package.

Under a bill introduced by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D.-Calif., owners of older cars would get vouchers worth thousands of dollars toward the purchase of newer, more fuel-efficient vehicle.

To qualify for a voucher, a car buyer would have to trade in a vehicle with EPA-rated fuel economy lower than 18 miles per gallon. The vehicle being purchased would have to exceed, by at least 25%, certain mileage standards set by the Department of Transportation. Those standards would vary by the type of vehicle and model year. Vouchers for smaller amounts could be used to purchase a used car or consumers could get public transit credits.

For the customer to get that cash, the car dealer would have to certify that the trade-in was getting scrapped and not resold. The car's vehicle identification number (VIN) would be tracked to make sure it never shows up on a vehicle registration again.

Crushing the old car has two benefits. First, it ensures that the consumer's purchase of a more efficient vehicle actually has a net environmental benefit. Second, it prevents a glut of used cars on the market, which would reduce trade-in values for new car buyers, which would cut into the sales incentive effect.

In addition to boosting car sales, the plan could save an estimated 80,000 barrels of oil a day, a spokesman for Feinstein's office said. Because it holds appeal for both environmentalists and the auto industry, the cash-for-clunkers idea seems to be generating the most discussion.

More at link... http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/23/autos/government_car_incentives/?postversion=2009012909



It was the Reagan years the auto loan interest tax deduction was removed as one of his revenue enhancements.


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:15 PM
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1. Interest of ALL kinds used to be deductible, and should be again...BUT
it should be income-limited.. We need to wean ourselves OFF of credit...period..

renters should be given back their deduction too..

I'd like to see NO income tax at all on the first $50K of family income.. THAT would be a stimulus and would not cost a lot to "roll out"..
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:15 PM
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2. Kill the deduction for the 20,000 lb behemoth SUVs.
How about a $2000 federal rebate for buying a new domestic fuel efficient car in addition to the tax credit? The consumer would get around 10% off. THAT would certainly help the auto industry!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:18 PM
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4. That would get my support if it were in the stimulus
Would $2000 be enough with the cost of cars today?

My first car sold for less than $4000 brand new. Same car today would be $40,000.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:19 PM
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5. I'd rather raise the gas tax. That way if you drove a fuel efficient car
but still burnt more gas than I do in my SUV you'd pay your share too!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:43 PM
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11. SUVs a part of what's wrong with America.
They are the embodiment of evil suckage and should be banned from existence. They're a poorly planned social engineering experiment that was started for & became wildly successful for all the wrong reasons. They're automotive kudzu that should be torched whenever & wherever possible.

If a person absolutely NEEDS a tank to allow them to drive down the highway because they're too afraid of the other drivers, they should learn how to drive a sane car or STOP DRIVING BEFORE THEY KILL SOMEONE! If they've get too much stuff for a small car - THEN THEY SHOULD GET RID OF SOME STUFF!

The only other reasons are that they're either too fat to fit in a real car, or their penis is too small.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:49 PM
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13. I drive a full size truck and I need it.
I live with bad weather 9 months of the year, so need the 4 wheel drive. I oftentimes work 100+ miles from the closest paved road (I'm a geologist), and need the bed space to carry gear. Tell me again how small my dick is.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:05 PM
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14. Can you read? I said SUVs - not trucks.
People who dive SUVs don't want a truck - they're too bid & ugly & smelly & driven by people who actually have to do manual labor for a living.

People who dive SUVs don't want to have to deal with the riff-raff of the unwashed masses. They like the idea of being able - theoretically - to go off-road, but they'd never subject their clean, un-scuffed $80,000 baby to the wilderness. Again - too dirty.

SUVs are for vodka-sotted Republican housewives to weave their way down to the Walgreens to refill their Xanex prescription.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:07 PM
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15. I don't drive an SUV. I drive a car that gets SUV-like mileage (17MPG).
I don't NEED, to...I WANT to. It's luxurious and scary fast and it's a joy to drive.

I also recycle and do responsible things with my thermostat and have CF bulbs in my house and don't use ChemLawn like my neighbors do and use fans instead of air conditioning, etc.......but I love to drive.

Singling out SUVs is just silly, IMO.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:36 AM
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18. You'd make a real good SS storm truper
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:03 PM
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19. Al Qaeda dosn't have to keep blowing up our buildings.
They just have to make sure we keep buying larger & more useless SUVs.

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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 04:31 PM
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20. I think you need to see someone professional about that.
I think you really have made a mountain out of a grain of sand.


It doesn't matter what the object of an irrational prejudice is, it matters that you have an irrational prejudice. It's not effecting anyone but you and it's effecting you negatively. It's sort of like pissing into the wind. The blow back isn't good for you.

SUVs are here and will be here, people will buy and drive them. The world isn't going to come to an end because of it.

Get some help.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:17 PM
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3. $1,300 on a $25,000 car?
That isn't even enough to cover DMV and taxes in CA let alone interest.

The real way to stimulate the economy is to let everyone deduct all consumer interest right off the top. Then you could lower your withholding by that amount. The more the credit card companies charge you the less taxes you have to pay. Real middle class tax relief!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:20 PM
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6. No thank you to either. Our cars are fine, no need for either a new one or a loan
Not my job to stimulate the North American economy.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:28 PM
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8. It is all our jobs to revive America
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:42 PM
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10. and how are the unemployed going to do that?
Those people without jobs and who don't have auto union cards find it really tough to get behind the rah rah of tax cuts ONLY if you purchase a car. They have more important things to think about - like rent, food, etc.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:42 AM
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16. Activism
You are doing it by participating in this forum.

Fight to get those jobs back into the stimulus instead of the fucking tax cuts.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:44 PM
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12. Not mine, but you go and revive and revive your heart and wallet out.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 07:44 PM by RB TexLa
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:43 AM
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17. You are on this forum?
Do you not think that is part of the picture. Trying to shape the future?
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:26 PM
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7. and bring back the credit card deduction. these would be a great help to
people who are just trying to survive
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:41 PM
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9. Re-install the interest deduction? You mean...?
You mean if we gave a morsel of relief to the working person on the street.. this country might prosper? Duh????
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