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Rex_Goodheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:06 PM
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Daschle was Obama's first real betrayal of his "Change" mantra
According to news reports, Obama said today that he didn't excuse Daschle's income tax error.

Bullshit.

If giving somebody a Cabinet position is not excusing somebody's behavior then there's very little that is.

Obama should have taken the lead and withdrawn the nominations of BOTH Geithner and Daschle. This is beginning to border on Bush-like obscene. Same old same old.


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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:08 PM
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1. And the Gregg flim flam was #2
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 03:09 PM by nichomachus
Well, McClurkin was #2 -- or maybe 1. Then, there was Rick Warren. Then, Gates. So, maybe Daschle was really Number 4 -- or is it five. It's so hard to keep track.

The Obama cultists are working harder than Freepers to find excuses for all these.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:33 PM
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30. Rule 1. Obama can do no wrong.
Rule 2. If Obama does something wrong, see rule # 1.
See, you only need 2 rules.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:42 PM
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33. No. It's not cultist that's the problem.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:10 PM
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2. Just checking - - are we supposed to hate Obama now?
:shrug:

Just wondered when the hatefest begins so I can clear out...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:11 PM
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6. Apparently.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:13 PM
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11. Yes, he is now worse than Hitler.
Apparently, the real object here is to be able to continue bitching despite getting exactly what we asked for in November.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:14 PM
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13. Ahhh but is he worse than the Clenis?
They say the Clenis is just a myth - and old story politicians tell their kids at night. "Go to bed or the Clenis will get you..."
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:17 PM
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18. I know a guy who saw Clenis in the woods once! nt
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:17 PM
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19. Did he take a picture?
And if so, did it make the little memory chip inside the camera explode?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:19 PM
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22. Nah, he didn't have a chance to get a picture.
He shot it an made a rug out of it for his den. It's really weird looking.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:14 PM
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15. It's been TWO WEEKS
and look!

He's hasn't changed the world nor has he fixed everything.

Let us now speak of Obama's Failed Presidency.

(Do I need that "sarcasm" thing here? Do I? Really?)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:16 PM
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16. There's a Dean thread around here that I got, but most didn't so, yeah, maybe...
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 04:11 PM
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37. Yes, and you're always supposed to whine, "This isn't CHANGE! Wah!"
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 04:20 PM
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38. No, who cares? He looks different so HURAAYYYY!!!!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 04:23 PM
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40. Yep, Obama and Bush no difference
:eyes:

And do I really need to put a :sarcasm: in there?
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:31 PM
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41. If people really cared for a substantive difference beyond skin color...
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 05:33 PM by newtothegame
there would have been less pictures of Obama in sunglasses and weeping senior citizens on here and more discussion of how we could defeat Prop 8, elect real progressives, etc.

ed for sp
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:12 PM
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42. Um, this makes no sense
I just don't get it

:shrug:
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:53 PM
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43. DOn't let the . . . .
criticism is not "hatred" -- unless you live on Free Republic.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:10 PM
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3. Hillary? Emanuel? Summers?
I would have preferred Democrats for those positions, but hopefully Obama can keep a lid on them.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:13 PM
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10. I'm still holding my breath wondering if Emanuel will end up being dragged down by Blago
The former governor is a man scorned and he seems particularly bent on taking Emanuel down with him.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:11 PM
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4. And ignoring the great Howard Dean's worth to the Democratic party SUCKS!
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 03:32 PM by GreenTea
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:14 PM
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14. yes n/m
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:11 PM
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5. Ye gods!
Someone dropped a deuce in the punchbowl!
:eyes:
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:12 PM
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9. LMAO!
:rofl:
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:12 PM
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7. Clearly, impeachment is the only option we are left with
:eyes:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:21 PM
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24. impeachment, bah that's such a cop-out
it's time for revolution!!! Take to the streets!! Smash some cars!! Break some glass and some skulls!!! Wipe out the human race and start over with ants because everybody sucks!! The human race is a virus!!!

Except for me, of course, I have never done or even thought anything that was wrong. That's what allows me to harshly judge all these other imperfect and corrupt a$$holes.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:12 PM
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8. No. Hanging with Jim Cooper, Sam Nunn and Colin Powell was. nt
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:13 PM
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12. Was DassHole a recess appointment?!?! Jus sayin, 99% of his other selections are on the up & up
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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:17 PM
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17. The President's political upbriging was in Chicago
If he wasn't a little pragmatic in his associations, who could he have talked to? I think our new president should be able choose who to hire and fire, sleaze factor being just one of many variables to his equation.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:17 PM
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20. Democrats excel at turning on Democrats. Today is another great example - and I'm not talking about
Obama.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:19 PM
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21. Why would anyone allow the minority party, the republicans, to call any shots what-so-ever?
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 03:28 PM by LaPera
Am I missing something here, just because the republicans love to make big empty threats, scream as loudly as possible, make lots of silly stupid noise to get noticed....

The republicans are by far the fucking minority party, they lost overwhelmingly.

The republicans love to preach democracy, well then, let's shove democracy down their lying, hateful, greedy little republican throats!

MAJORITY RULES! - GET IT YET REPUBLICANS?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:22 PM
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26. Maybe the Democrats have to "get it" first. n/t
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:20 PM
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23. Not quite Bush-like, but Obama did stray off message
He will make mistakes.

And yet on balance, his worst mistake will still be better than Shrub's best day (err, if he had one?).
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:21 PM
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25. I'm sorry...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:23 PM
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27. This is FAR from b*sh-like obscene.
So far this thread is funny.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:23 PM
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28. No. That was Emmanuel as the first betrayal
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:27 PM
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29. But yesterday he backed him "absolutely!" What happened?? n/t
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:36 PM
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31. Shit.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:45 PM
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34. If I had a penny for every time a resignee had been "backed absolutely"
by any President, etc etc etc.
Just shows Daschle has more smarts than Geithner.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:39 PM
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32. The First Betrayal?
Nah, merely the last in a growing list.
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FraDon Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:54 PM
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35. Grandma, are we governing yet? •
Sure starting to look like it; whaddya you think?
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 04:08 PM
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36. Summers, Gertner, Gates, all the intelligence people so far .... I'm sure there's more.
Oh, and Rahm Emmanuel, a Dem hack and thug from way back. Have a nice day.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 04:21 PM
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39. Agreed. K&R.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:19 PM
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44. The tax thing was bad enough but Obama should have been more concerned
with Daschle's ties to the health insurance industry. Assuming he's serious about ethics and conflicts of interest.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:53 PM
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45. I don't think Daschle was that bad
Daschle seems to support single payer (he considers it politically unfeasable mind you) in his book and reforming healthcare to make it more like the federal reserve, where competent people make the decisions independently of politics and where we research the most cost effective ways to address health.

His tax cheats were fairly minor, and he was willing to make amends.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:54 PM
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46. Frankly, I think his pandering to the right wing Christian church was his first betrayal of change
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