NYT, PAGE ONE: An accumulating body of evidence is at odds with statements of Atty. General Gonzales

[DeepModem Mom]

For Gonzales, More Records, and Questions
By ERIC LIPTON and DAVID JOHNSTON
Published: March 25, 2007

WASHINGTON, March 24 — An accumulating body of evidence is at odds with the statements of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales that he played little role in the deliberations over the dismissal of eight United States attorneys.

Mr. Gonzales has said he did not take part in any discussions of the dismissal effort, and left the planning and execution of the removals up to D. Kyle Sampson, his former chief of staff.

But e-mail messages and other documents released by the Justice Department in recent days suggest that Mr. Gonzales was told of the dismissal plan on at least two occasions, in 2005 when the plan was devised and again in late 2006 shortly before the firings were carried out.

The conflicts between the documentary record and Mr. Gonzales’s version of events have contributed to an erosion of support for him in Congress, where lawmakers from both parties have called for him to step down. They have also fed suspicions by some Democrats that the ousters, from the start, may have been orchestrated by the White House, and most particularly, by Karl Rove, the White House political adviser.

The disparities are giving Democrats in Congress a rationale to transform what started as an inquiry focused on the ouster plan itself into a much broader and perhaps even more damaging look at misleading, or at least inaccurate, statements by the Bush administration figures involved in the effort....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/washington/25attorneys.html?ref=todayspaper

[fooj]

1. I took a look at the local paper tonight.

THREE separate calls for impeachment! People are pissed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. This is what will drive the calls for impeachment

war will not do it, but this is relatively simple for people to udnerstand

Compromise the department of justice, and the justice system, period

[dennis4868]

24. right....

bbut notjing beats a Democratic president getting a BJ.

[barb162]

33. But was any crime committed over these firings

What was the federal statute that was broken? It's an "At will" kind of employment.

[enough]

3. k&r

[WiseButAngrySara]

4. KNR. ....n/t

[SpiralHawk]

5. Gonzales and republicon cronies lying to the American People

Toss the republicon liars out of Washington.

[leftchick]

6. the NYTs is having an awful time saying the L word

THE WORD IS LIE!!!!!! You can say it. It came out easily enough during zippergate.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

26. Some of Gonzo's statements were to Congress. The word then is PERJURE.

nt

[TahitiNut]

7. It's clear that this was a mid-term election strategy to attack Dems in key districts.

There's no other explanation, considering the timing and the 'litmus test.' When the handwriting was on the wall that the GOP was going to lose control of the House, Rove lit backfires to protect the seats (asses) getting burnt by corruption and tried to redirect US Attorneys to smear challengers.

This is far worse even than Nixon's use of the FBI.

[Beetwasher]

9. Yup

No doubt about it.

[Hubert Flottz]

13. And think of the majority the democrats would have won IF...

the GOP's cronies who did play along, hadn't conspired with Rove, Bush and Gonzo's grand plan to steal our votes again last November.

What if everyone in America just started lying to the folks they work for, 24/7, about everything?

[19jet54]

21. Disrespecting the people...

... "Wag the Dog" because he is in charge (The Decider) and to hell with the people? :sarcasm:

Everything about "W" and his cronies is about Disrespecting the people, "Congress is not going to tell him anything", all the advise on Iraq & he chooses SURGE, his attitude about 'entitlement', VA funding, Postal Reform, Medicare, Social Security? This president is disrespectful to the American People - He stole the first election by crook; he thinks he is above the law; America is sick & tired of King George - Read the Declaration of Independence, it applies today as much as it did 250 years ago...

:grr:

K&R - Nixon was a saint next to "W"

[diane in sf]

23. He stole the 2004 election too--if you

have ever studied statistics its real obvious. When almost every difference of the "actual" vote count from the exit polls went in Georgies favor you know you had a bogus election. In an honest election the deviance from the exit polls would have gone equally to both candidates.
Exit poll discrepancies also made it ovious they were stealing congressional elections in 02 and 04.

[barb162]

35. I think you're probably right

[Beetwasher]

8. And I Can Almost GUARANTEE The Leaked Documents Will Keep Coming

And the hearings will uncover a LOT more perfidy. *Snicker*

The WH is in for one of the most vicious political beatings that's ever been witnessed.

[wryter2000]

10. Were the latest documents leaked?

I'm having a hard time understanding why the crooks are releasing the e-mails. Could they really have thought we couldn't find enough people to read them? Given their "we can do whatever we damned well please" attitude, I don't understand why they gave out incriminating evidence. :shrug:

Any insights?

[Justice Is Comin]

12. I think that was precipitated by the announcement

that Kyle Sampson was going willingly under oath. They knew he would disclose them. There are some soiled undies over there.

[wryter2000]

14. Interesting

I love the image of soiled undies. :)

Unfortunately, I'll be in the hospital for knee surgery on Thursday and won't get to watch CSPAN. I'll have my radio, though, and can listen to AAR. I only wish my local affiliate played Randi instead of Schultz.

[Beetwasher]

15. Actually, No

I guess they weren't. They WERE released. Yeah, that's a good question. Why are they releasing this stuff? There must be some really good stuff they're holding back if they're releasing this stuff!

[Lord Balto]

36. "They" aren't doing it

This is about career prosecutors who don't like the politicization of the Justice Department and are releasing these documents *despite* the attempts of Gonzalies to cover them up.

[wake.up.america]

18. I certainly hope you are right. I am still angry at what they did to the Big Dog

[Tigress DEM]

30. Nah, it's just sometimes when the "truth" sets you free...

there's very little left if the majority of your life has been a lie.

Telling the truth about these absurdities doesn't make the tellers absurd, unless of course one listens to Rush. Then it's "backwards world".

There's a good reason not to let ourselves even think this is a political beating, because it's simple justice, not political brutality. These neo-punks just can't take having to pay for their own crimes because they keep up the scape goat game to save their own hides.

People going to court, having to tell the truth and have the truth be told about them shouldn't be pitied or reviled. They should just be dealt with like week old garbage. Take them out and let them sit together somewhere and rot away until all that is left turns into something useful again.

[alfredo]

11. You know the president of Poland is doing the same type of

purge bush is doing. He is an ally of bush and is also at an upper 20's approval rating.

[Morgana LaFey]

16. Well, watch for election fraud initiatives in those

districts with new prosecutors, something along the lines of this:

New U.S. attorneys seem to have partisan records
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2779726

ROVE IDENTIFIED 11 PIVOTAL STATES FOR '08; BUSH HAS APPOINTED NEW U.S. ATTORNEYS IN NINE OF THEM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x491130

Justice's new U.S. attorneys have partisan records (Dem vote suppression experience!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2779325

BUSH Appointed Attorney Accused Of Participating In Florida 04-Dem Voter Suppression (McClatchy)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x487446

[alfredo]

25. I'm waiting for them to reopen WhiteWater.

[Tigress DEM]

29. Would be nice.

Ohio sure has gotten some of their spunk back after booting out Ken Blackwell.

Bump the cronies off the evidence piles they are sitting on and INVESTIGATE what we find.

[senseandsensibility]

17. Still no mention about WHY they wanted to replace the

attorneys. Nothing about stopping investigations into repuglican criminals or installing their buddies into key states before the 2008 elections. The corporate media is so slow.

[philosophie_en_rose]

19. Shocking!

:rofl:

If anyone needs to keep their lawyers happy, you'd think it'd be the Bush administration.

[DemGa]

20. The great thing about this story ...even a wing-nut can understand it.

[indie_voter]

22. Translation: He lied.

Impeach. What does it take to get articles of impeachment drafted for the lot of these thugs?

[DemoVet]

27. And I love this quote:

“Members of Congress now face a choice: whether they will waste time and provoke an unnecessary confrontation, or whether they will join us in working to do the people’s business,” Mr. Bush said.

Waste time and provoke an unnecessary confrontation? You mean, like impeaching Bill Clinton for lying about a blowjob?

And since when did any republican care about the "people's business" anyway?

[whistle]

28. At odds with the evidence, not at all surprising given that Alberto Gonzales lied

...about everything he was asked regarding the Federal Attorney firings

[sbyte]

31. When is he due back before the judisiary Committee?

Bring it on. I want to seem him squirm.

[IWantAChange]

32. This is unfolding like an old circus tent - just keeps getting bigger and bigger....

getting Gonzo under oath will open a myriad of lines of questioning that are available because of what the various fired US Attorney's were working on or had not pursued - election fraud, Cunningham co-horts, politicizing the justice dept, etc - whoopee

[WinkyDink]

34. "...is at odds with...." Interesting semantics to avoid saying, "Evidence shows Gonzales lied."

[Lord Balto]

37. It's in their genes

These folks appear to be constitutionally incapable of telling the truth. How else to explain behaviour that was guaranteed to be uncovered and identified as just so many more lies? Why do that to yourself unless you just *cannot* do otherwise?