I told Mrs R to "mark my words" about that "octuplet mom" the other day:

[Redstone]

I said the ONLY explanation for her having the fertility treatments / embryo implants was that she was looking to get book and / or TV deals.

Boy, was I right.

Redstone

[Robb]

1. Might not be your *best* Nostrodamus moment there

...but looks like you might be right. How you feelin'? :hi:

[Redstone]

4. Pretty good, mon frere, thanks for asking. Boy, did I call THIS one right, or what?

Redstone

[roguevalley]

2. fourteen kids. amazing. I wonder how many will be developmentally

harmed by this. cerebral palsy and blindness often happen with super twins.

[Sequoia]

10. Time for those right to lifers to put their money where their mouth is.

I can hear them now: "God didn't give them to her, science did."

[BleedingHeartRN]

33. You said it!

I'm all for "reproductive rights" but there also needs to be "reproductive responsibility." That doctor needs to be vilified.

[BrklynLiberal]

13. One has already been diagnosed as autistic.

[CTyankee]

34. Autistic at birth? I never heard of that. n/t

[maxsolomon]

35. no, one of the first 6 is autistic, supposedly

not the octuplets.

[akbacchus_BC]

36. Can the doctors diagnose autism in a new born? I heard she had

lots of doctors at the delivery (c-section) and it is costly and that some of the babies could have brain damage, etc. Since she already had six children, that doctor should not have performed the procedure. Just my opinion but there should be more accountability for these procedures.

[JuniperLea]

3. I said the exact same thing to howardx the other day...

He agreed... but I said it first!!

[ferrous wheel]

5. I have to assign -some- blame to the media that celebrates human litters so much.

Some of the talking heads are completely ga-ga (or is it goo-goo) over these unblessed events...they think it's like a basket of puppies (which usually have a tit each)...
:grr:

[Redstone]

7. Yeah, it would be good if they'd show some restraint...but this is America.

Redstone

[ferrous wheel]

22. Yep. I'm absolutely against censorship but I wish they'd get a little smarter.

One more for the wish list, I guess...

[juno jones]

31. I find it chillling

that the other govts/societies that come to mind when cheering on and financially rewarding procreation of this sort are Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia.

[redirish28]

6. She is going to cause trouble for those who really need fertility treatments.

My wife and I have been trying. Indications are that my wife may not be able to get pregnant the traditional way. So hopefully we will be able to get help with fertility treatment someway but now this woman will cause the whole practice to be questioned.

[Redstone]

9. Yes, indeed. The greedy ones always ruin things for everyone else.

Redstone

[emmadoggy]

19. Hoping for the best for you.

My DH and I went through infertility and fertility treatments. It is physically and emotionally difficult. We were lucky enough to finally get pregnant with twins. They just turned 7.

I hope you and your wife are able to find success. It is very worth the challenge.

And I agree that these cases make it more problematic for everyone else.


:hug:

[redirish28]

48. Thanks

[KakistocracyHater]

32. maybe you could consider adopting, I don't know about the $

but perhaps you & your wife could go to a local place & sit there, perhaps your child is already born. Alternatively, did they try thyroid pills to aid conception? My Mom got me that way, adoption back then was expensive.

[redirish28]

49. It is a option we are thinking about as well...

[Tangerine LaBamba]

8. There's another explanation,

having read some of her alleged history, via quotes from her mother.

And that is that she's absolutely goddamn fucking nuts.

[Redstone]

11. She is, without question. May I add the word "delusional" to your description?

Redstone

[Tangerine LaBamba]

12. I always see "delusional"

within "nuts," which covers all aspects of goofiness, but feel free to put your own very special gloss on any of my words.

It's just nice to see you feeling frisky................

[uppityperson]

14. Seems like an accurate, succinct, professional diagnoses with which I concur

[BrklynLiberal]

15. But that is so complicated and subtle. Hard for people to grasp

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


and it interferes with her right to choose!!! :sarcasm:


Interestng that it is public policy to discourage drinking and smoking while pregnant, but it is OK implant EIGHT embryos at once in a woman who already has 6 children under 7 years of age. :crazy: :silly:

[Tangerine LaBamba]

25. I read that she had a shitload of fertilized eggs

in storage, and used up the first six. Then she got the last eight installed.

Somewhere, there is a physician who is in fear for his license. Any M.D. who did this - to a woman without a man in the picture, no visible means of support, and SIX KIDS AT HOME - should lose his license and be forced to pay for the upbringing of those eight kids.

Which may be what the mother had in mind all the while.

Maybe she's secretly in love with the fertility doctor, and this is her diabolical plan to trap him into marriage?

OK, I've lost my mind. Ignore me.

[BrklynLiberal]

27. Trying to figure out exactly what this woman, and her MD were thinking is enough to drive

a sane person over the edge. :D
That of course, assumes that there actually was thought given to this endeavor.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

30. It's so deliberate

I mean, it's not like the condom broke or we got drunk and ......... well, you know.

Fertilized eggs don't just fall into a uterus. This was planned and executed very deliberately.

I just cannot grasp this.

Beats Natalee Holloway and shark attacks, don't it?

heh heh heh

[BrklynLiberal]

39. yep. sure does

[MicaelS]

51. It's all about the Benjamins

Benjamin Franklins, that is. Money, money, money and more money. She saw the history of family having multiples getting free houses, lifetime supply of diapers, food, vans, TV shows based around them, etc, etc, etc. She just figured she found herself a good old-fashioned ticket to easy street and decided to ride it as far as she could.

[Control-Z]

45. I read in one of the news articles

that there may have been more than 8 to start, but only 8 took. If you think about it...if you wanted eight to actually take, would you start with more than eight for a better chance of having 8 take? I honestly have no idea. I wonder what the odds are of having 8 out of 8 implants take. It all sounds crazy to me. Nothing like gambling with human life.

[Missy Vixen]

17. Fourteen kids under eight years of age?

I'm feeling faint. I think I need to lie down. :woohoo:

What makes anyone decide to do something like this?

[BrklynLiberal]

18. Not cool calm logic. That is for sure.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

23. See my original diagnosis

The technical term for it is "fucking nuts."

And not this kind, either:

[akbacchus_BC]

38. What I find even more nuts is that the media claimed she lived in

a two-bedroom ranch house. The doctor really ought to be reprimanded. This story is so sad but the media is all excited about it.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

41. I get nervous

When the media goes all haywire over this kind of nonsense, it reminds me of how goofy the news was just before 9/11.

Do you remember?

The big news was shark attacks in Florida. Oh, my god, there was nothing else going on except those shark attacks.

That's what this baby story makes me think of, and I get nervous............................

[treestar]

16. Amen, it's too bad people always show interest to the point where

the media is willing to offer millions.

[petronius]

21. Although now that it's happened, I hope those millions do appear

those kids are in a tough enough spot as it is...

[malaise]

20. Guess she realized there is only one way out of poverty

Do something absolutely stupid.

[Donnachaidh]

24. did you happen to catch her new PR person on the news today?

It's stunning how quickly the thieves are lining up for a bite at the apple. :rofl:

[Ilsa]

28. David Brokaw?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OCTUPLETS?SITE=CADIU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4974134&mesg_id=4974134

[Control-Z]

47. What I found amazing about her

was how quickly she so obviously began spinning the story. She claimed the mother was a professional, employed full time, before she had the octs. Everyone has already heard the truth about her employment, of lack there of. Does she really think people will forget that and buy her lie?

[Warpy]

26. It's an extreme way to go about it and could have been fatal.

and if there is any justice left in this world, that fertility clinic will have its licenses yanked and will close. The doctor will also have his license yanked.

It was a fluke that both the woman and all 8 babies survived. Our bodies are simply not designed for this kind of multiple birth with its attendant severe stress on all organ systems, not to mention the sheer physical stress of becoming that huge.

That clinic needs to be stopped before they kill somebody.

As for the mom, I hope she does get the deals she's looking for. She's going to need a high income to help provide for all those children.

[Matilda]

43. I almost hate to say it,

but if she pulls in the big dollars, how much do you think the kids will see?

I don't think she's suddenly going to become responsible when her bank account skyrockets.

[Ilsa]

29. Hey Redstone maybe some other nutcase will try for 9 babies this year. nt

[spanone]

37. ebaybies

[ferrous wheel]

40. How much is the Buy it Now price?

I imagine shipping could be problematic...

:D :rofl:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

44. I heard that DHL will ship anything

[sagetea]

42. I so much wanted to start a thread

that began with "I've had 14 abortions in 7 years" not really,just to point out the hypocrisy of it all.I just don't have the guts to do that. I agree with you, there is something definitely fishy about her.

[kskiska]

46. Octuplets mom is not getting showered with gifts

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Where is the lifetime supply of diapers, formula and baby wipes? The free van? The brand-new house?

Women who give birth to six, seven or eight babies are often showered with dazzling gifts from big corporations, local businesses and strangers. But that is not happening with the Southern California mother who delivered octuplets last week.

The news that she is a single mother with six other children — and that all 14 were conceived by having embryos implanted — seems to have turned off many people, and companies are not exactly rushing to get publicity by piling on the freebies.

(snip)

A veteran Hollywood publicist said Suleman's handlers have their work cut out for them in trying to win public sympathy for her.

"I think it's a calamity," said publicist David Brokaw, who has handled crises for celebrities. "I don't see, the way this is shaped, how you can say much about it in terms of something favorable."

Makers of diapers, formula and other products would probably want to steer clear of her, Brokaw said. He suggested she lie low for now and concentrate on crafting an image as a responsible parent.

more…
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ilIx-PXnXPpwF1a_nlRYF00fzBIQD964CUM00

[Ishoutandscream2]

50. The mother already has a "spokesperson" on the morning shows

Saw the spokesperson this morning on the Today Show while getting ready for work. Unbelievable!

[KillCapitalism]

52. There is only one cure for this woman's insanity.

No pill or any amount of therapy will do it, a hysterectomy would do however.