Everything you see on your American TV, radio, and in your newspaper today is propaganda.

[stevedeshazer]

Look around you. Think for yourself.

You know they're trying to destroy our new President before he even gets a good start.

Remember 1993? We've been here before.

Let's not let this happen again.

I'm just sayin'.

Remember.

[senseandsensibility]

1. Well, not EVERYTHING

Not Rachel. She just had Bernie Sanders on her show, too. But I admit that I've been out all day and haven't seen any other tv. Pretty grim, huh?

[stevedeshazer]

4. Okay, 98%

I'll budge.

But only in the interest of bipartisanship, or whatever the Republicans are calling it today.

:)

[tavalon]

2. Is there some sort of kerfluffle?

I think Obama is doing awesome and he just admitted a mistake! Rock on!

[stevedeshazer]

6. There's this Daschle fellow, and his nationally televised lynching

Perhaps you missed it.

:)

[tavalon]

8. Funny you should mention that

See, I'm a nightshifter so I only got up a few hours ago and it took me a while to piece it all together and as a major non fan of Daschle, I was pleased. But really, the shitstorm must have been earlier because today doesn't look all that different from any other day on DU.

[question everything]

22. What you call "lynching" is exposure that we should all welcome

It is not about the tax. It is about his "advisory" role to UnitedHealth that is what is bad with our health care system. A major insurance company that screwed patients and doctors while giving millions to its shareholders and executives. Andrew Cuomo went after them last months and got some millions back to cancer patients that they robbed.

When a CEO of a paper shuffling company gets $100 million a year in compensation, while doctors have to leave the field because they cannot make ends meats, when hospitals have to layoff nurses and technicians while insurance companies are making like bandits - this is what requires a major reform.

But Daschle advised them. Do you really think he would have done anything to cut their source of income?

And this is what he was going to be asked, and this is why he had to resign.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8163233

[midnight]

24. I did not know this. Why doesn't the good president just ask

the good doc. for help. That wonderful Dr. Dean would be perfect.

[bdamomma]

38. Chris Matthews was asking Claire McCaskill why not Dean for HHS

and is there any bad blood between Dean and Obama, she responded No.

[stevedeshazer]

27. I agree with your take on Daschle, but that's not the point

I'm aware that Daschle is no friend to what I support, single-payer national healthcare.

But he WAS politically lynched today by the American media propaganda machine.

Surely you can't dismiss that?

[Touchdown]

3. LOST is propaganda?

How about True Blood ?

[stevedeshazer]

5. Okay, I overstated it.

I'm talkin' the NOOZE.

[Touchdown]

11. ...

:evilgrin:

[cynatnite]

7. Even Family Guy? n/t

[stevedeshazer]

12. Even Family Guy.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=family+guy+propaganda

[NeedleCast]

36. Irony!

the very first link you get when you google Family Guy Propaganda is a bunch of right wing loonies accusing Family Guy of being subversive liberal propaganda.

Hooray Irony!

[ZombieHorde]

9. Even FOX News?

[razors edge]

10. 50% propaganda,

50% diversion.

I hear there is something new happening on the Jon Bennett Ramsey case.

[ZombieHorde]

13. A good zombie movie is both.

[razors edge]

21. I like the classics.

[ZombieHorde]

39. The director of that movie, George Romero, is known for putting liberal propaganda in his movies.

[razors edge]

40. I can see that.

A strong black man with his head on straight when the white folk go apeshit.

That would be considered liberal propaganda in some places still to this day.

[stevedeshazer]

14. I'm still curious about the runaway bride

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/03/20/jenniferwilbanks_narrowweb__300x468,0.jpg

[razors edge]

20. Last heard about her

she was picking up trash on a runway, or roadway somewhere.

We are overdue for an update.

[Touchdown]

17. Is that a joke? Because there really is.

It was on Denver's local news last night. I shit you not! They've got a new task force and are re-opening the case.:wow:

[razors edge]

18. Not a joke.

I heard it here in Toledo. State backed off and turned it over to the locals, or something like that.

[stillcool]

15. I think it's getting worse...

I don't watch the tv, but I feel my world getting smaller. Maybe I don't have as much time or inclination to search for news, but it seems less is being reported and it's harder to find. It's like the internet is a major dumping ground.

[flvegan]

16. That's why I love BBC America.

[stevedeshazer]

19. Yes. I do, too.

It's ironic that the only sources of real news about America come from Europe and Canada.

[Mr Rabble]

23. It is a part of the ideological indoctrination we all endure.

This really extends to entertainment TeeVee as well.
Why else would you have nothing but shows focusing on crime, if not to frighten us?

The corporations own every single channel. What else would you expect?

[stevedeshazer]

28. Ding

You get it.

100% agreed.

[Mr Rabble]

37. "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it."

This from the honorable Winston Churchill, as he was explaining how he intended to get away with using chemical weapons against people in India.

Of course this does not fit the history that he wrote, so you never hear about this.

And so it goes.

Almost nothing in the mass media has any other intent than to keep us in line.

[conscious evolution]

41. I agree

Then there was all those house flippin shows.I've always wondered who bankrolled those shows.

Here is a real life example of the power of even inconsequintel images seen on TV. There is a BarB Que sauce on the market called Sweet Baby Rays.It is a good sauce but never had done all that well in sales.
Then one week the sales started going up.Way up.A lot more than what one would expect in such a short time.now you can usually find it on store shelves with the big name brands.
The producers were happy,of course,but the could not figure out why the increase.Until an employee figured it out.He was watching a rerun of the MTV show Cribs.The rap star whose home they were showing showed what was in his refridgerator.In it was Champagne,beer and Sweet Baby Rays BBQ Sauce.
The SBR producers checked back and sure enough the first spike started the week after the show originally aired.
The image was on for only a couple of secods.
Yet in that couple of seconds a whole lot of people were branded.

TV gots power.Anyone says different is a fool or a liar.

[obiwan]

25. Right, good point. "Think for yourself."

[NuttyFluffers]

26. well it is a system based on non-peer reviewed, individual ownership, sustained on ads.

kinda designed to be predominantly propaganda from the get go, doesn't it? the system itself from inception is flawed. doesn't mean the idea of a free press is flawed. just means our method of implementation is rather short-sighted and prone to abuse, an abuse that we so take for granted that before we assume it's often not there. the genius of propaganda is when they can let you convince yourself that it no longer is what it blatantly is...

[stevedeshazer]

31. It's news for profit. Irritainment.

Don't know about you, but news divisions on network radio, TV and newspapers were independent from the sales departments. News operations were not run as profit centers, but as a public service.

Now, if it bleeds, it leads. Unless it's about sex.

Sad, really.

[NuttyFluffers]

42. the public service mentality is definitely lost, isn't it?

that's probably why it took a little bit longer for such a full corruption of the industry/public commons facility. Hearst definitely help major inroads to internal destruction and the past 30 years pretty much finalized the completion. kinda sad.

dig the Irritainment label, very apropos to its current function to cause disorganized agitation. note "Shiny Object Du Jour" effect in GD here, let alone the outer world in general. a scattered enemy is a prone enemy.

[pipi_k]

29. Well, Bushie DID say he wanted to "catapult the propaganda"

Maybe he left instructions behind that it should continue to be catapulted even though he's not there anymore to be a part of it all.

:yoiks:

[SergeyDovlatov]

30. and what changed? It was the same in 2002 when media was selling us Iraq war

Same in 2008 when media was selling us Banking Welfare bill

[stevedeshazer]

32. Nothing, apparently.

It's been this way at least 60 years.

[NeedleCast]

33. Even South Park?

Damn...

It's funny when people tell you to think for yourself while trying to tell you what to do.

Stupid, but funny.

[EFerrari]

34. You bet. And it's just starting. Saddle up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS0_h_bYe8I&feature=related

[mopinko]

35. ed schultz had pat buchanan on today. boy was he trying to project his

twisted reality. "the stimulus package is all but dead. it's not gonna pass." oh my god.
scary.