So some US general was on TV yesterday saying how some Iraqis blew up kids in the back seat of a car

[NNN0LHI]

I don't know about you guys but this sure reminds me of the propaganda we used to get spoon-fed from the military industrial complex during the Vietnam war. Its exactly the same.

And all the while we were carpet bombing huge swaths of North Vietnam and dropping jellified gasoline on top of Vietnamese people while they slept.

History does repeat.

Don

[leftchick]

1. if the US Miltary is saying it

chances are it is not true.

[mediaman007]

11. Our military has made such a science out of mis-information,

I don't know how anyone can accept anything that they say. There has to be a shadow of doubt in every press release. Who is the message for? It is for the "faithful Republicans?" the general American population? maybe the Iraqis? the Middle East?

We've told so many lies, and still we pour billions into the lie machine! Our military is nothing more than a corporate security force anyway. Do the terrorists really care about getting at the American people? or are they more concerned about corporate American invading and removing their resources at a discount?

Sorry for the ramble.

[Robbien]

2. Yes "Our awful enemies are just low life animals who will use children as shields" meme

The military brass brings that one out whenever they are doing something really evil and need some cover.

[malaise]

3. Maybe those generals should refresh themselves this

afternoon when Book TV presents Giuliana Sgrena Friendly Fire: The Remarkable Story of a Journalist Kidnapped in Iraq, Rescued by an Italian Secret Service Agent, and Shot by U.S. Forces.
http://www.booktv.org/feature/index.asp?segID=8007&schedID=481

[youngdem]

4. Yeah, I'm sure it was dripping with righteous indignation...what a fucking hypocrite

What he should have said is "Those are OUR innocent children to kill, not theirs."

[cassiepriam]

5. If true, it means they will win in the end. They are willing to sacrifice everything for freedom.

This is their homeland, and they will fight to the death for it.
And even sacrifice their own children to be free of the Americans.

[cali]

7. If true- and that's a big if-

then this act has nothing to do with freedom. It's a vile act and justifying it as sacrificing everything for freedom, even their own children- is simply sick.

[NNN0LHI]

10. Big if is right

No coincidence that all the convictions for a US platoon being convicted of raping and killing a 14 year old Iraqi girl and murdering her family have been coming in recently. I noticed he didn't mention none of that. Our cable news shows never mention that either. Yet they have been playing the heck out of the good general.

Don

[cassiepriam]

18. Perhaps it is a better way to go then being raped and set on fire by American troops??

Or tortured, or dying a slow and painful death from
all the depleted uranium we are dropping on their country.

[cali]

21. Justifying such an act is just sick

beyond comprehension. Note, that I'm not saying it happened. I'm strictly addressing your sick comments. Unfuckingbelievable that anyone on DU would justify the concept of killing children for political gain.

[Ilsa]

6. But there was little coverage of a British General who said

that Americans are not fighting a war, the American military is fighting a war. He was also talking about how slow helocopter replacements are coming for the US Army.

I don't know who he is. My husband told me about him and what he had read in a mainstream online newspaper. It will never see the light of day in the US MSM though.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. This was in all the papers late last week

I even posted a thread about it. Interestingly, of the four articles I read, three said the claims had yet to be substantiated-only the LA Times didn't put in that little tidbit. I was thinking this was a psy-op, myself, because I couldn't figure that any terrorist organization would use little kids like this--they couldn't go on film saying they were glad to be martyrs, because they are too young-and folks all over the world would recognize this.

[NNN0LHI]

9. Ah the good old LA Times

They will go down in history as the paper who gave us the "Winnebagos Of Death" lie. I don't think they ever apologized for that whopper either.

Don

[kiahzero]

14. There was a reson given in one of the stories

The claim was that vehicles with children were subject to less scrutiny, so they took some kids with them to make sure they got through security.

I'm not saying it happened, I'm just saying that one of the news reports did provide a rationale for the alleged action.

[Solo_in_MD]

15. Another case of our cultural assumptions be used against us

FWIW, I could easily see this happening.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. Yes, that reason was given

in all the stories I read--but I don't see even the most ardent terrorist volunteering their children--and if they wish to win the hearts and minds of followers, they wouldn't do it either. Can you imagine what Sunnis would do if they knew Shia were using kidnapped Sunni kids in this manner? Or vice versa? Talk about continuing the civil war....

[WinkyDink]

12. And of course, there is evidence of this, right? HA. Much MORE evidence from the killer's mouth of

OUR troops killing Iraqi civilians, including children.

[jwirr]

13. Children are the victims of both sides. Now that it is recognized

as a civil war then they are the main target of the other side. THIS is why all wars are bad, even when they may be unavoidable.

[submerged99]

17. Could be true....but 'WE" have been conditioned not to care about Iraqi deaths

I don't mean "WE" as in us DUer's, but the general population. Bushco has spent a lot of time downplaying the civilian deaths caused by the invasion. Right wingers will dismiss the deaths of Iraqi children and tell you it's "collateral damage" or a "small price" to pay.

Those who believe this won't care about a couple of Iraqi children getting killed and if they pretend to, people will call them hypocrites because they've spent the previous 4 years telling people those sort of deaths were not important.

Those who empathize will mourn for the children, regardless of who killed them, and continue their efforts to stop this madness so that this doesn't happen to others like them.

[cassiepriam]

20. Americans have murdered over 100,000 Iraqis. How many were babies and children?

[LynnTheDem]

19. Germans skewering babies on their bayonettes.

Iraqis dumping incubator babies onto cement floors.

Demonization propaganda (aka lies) has been standard US MO for decades.