Kristol: GOP Should Unite Against Economic Recovery Package Now To Help Defeat Health Care Later

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Kristol: GOP Should Unite Against Economic Recovery Package Now To Help Defeat Health Care Later»

On Monday night, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol appeared on Neil Cavuto’s Fox Business show to discuss conservative criticism of President Obama’s economic recovery plan. “I’m less certain than I was even 4 or 5 days ago” that Democrats would push the stimulus bill through the Senate without GOP support, said Kristol. “I do think it’s now a question.”

Kristol then claimed that “the loss of credibility” that Obama and congressional Democrats could incur from the process of passing the recovery package “really hurts them on the next piece of legislation.” Citing the example of Bill Clinton’s experience in the 90s, Kristol said that a united conservative front against the stimulus now could help them defeat health care legislation in the future:

KRISTOL: But the loss of credibility, even if they jam it through, really hurts them on the next, on the next piece of legislation. Clinton got through his tax increases in ‘93, it was such a labor and he had to twist so many arms to do it and he became so unpopular.

CAVUTO: Without a single Republican vote. Without a single Republican vote.

That it made, that it made it so much easier to then defeat his health care initiative. So, it’s very important for Republicans who think they’re going to have to fight later on on health care, fight later on maybe on some of the bank bailout legislation, fight later on on all kinds of issues. It’s very important for them, I think, not just to stay united at this time, though that’s important, but to make the arguments.

Watch it: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/04/kristol-stimulus-health-care/
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How do you get your brain so munged up as this?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

Speaking of people that should be cockpunched on a daily basis. nt

[SpiralHawk]

2. "We want America to fail. Smirk." - Republicon Homelanders

"We Republicon Homelanders left a legacy of Epic FAIL. We want to ensure that this continues for America. Smirk."

- Republicon Homelanders

[BOSSHOG]

5. "No We Can't" the GOP's New Slogan

[Kalyke]

1. Clinton was unpopular?

Maybe with Congress, but the PEOPLE loved him.

:crazy:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6. Kristol wouldn't know the truth if it were giving him a lap dance. nt

[liberal N proud]

3. Kristol, like rush limbaugh want to see the nation crumble

[Patsy Stone]

4. Is that the same wrong about everything all the time Bill Kristol?

Fired AGAIN Bill Kristol?

Whatever he says, bet on the opposite to be true.

[FiveGoodMen]

7. Billy should die of something slow and painful.

[droidamus2]

8. So in the end..

It's not whether the bill and what's in it is a good idea or an appropriate solution it is whether the Republicans can make President Obama and the Democrats look bad and there fore weaken them for the next 4 to 8 years. As many on DU have stated 'beat them over the head with it'. Repeat ad infinitum (sp?) that the Republicans are more interested in playing political gotcha then they are in solving the real problems of this country. It is more important to them to be able to say 'we defeated it' then to say we solved the problem. President Obama is right he and the Democrats were elected by a large margin based on a particular message of how to deal with our problems and if the Republicans only want to obstruct and not be involved in creating solutions then they just should step aside and let the adults get the job done. We absolutely need a filibuster proof Senate in 2010.

[SergeyDovlatov]

9. loss of credibility? Bill you can't talk about credibility

you don't have any.

[sinkingfeeling]

10. Why of course, Billy. Having the economy fail and making sure that Americans will work for peanuts

and no health benefits is the only way that you Neo-Cons can achieve your ruling class.

"What do neocons believe and want? They are anti-democratic, authoritarian, and they want power. Straussianism provides the intellectual framework and personal justification for their actions.

Strauss taught that an elite, wise ruling class must rule the unsophisticated masses by telling them noble lies for their own good.

Strauss loved Plato, interpreting his teachings to mean, “... true democracy is an act against nature and must be prevented at all costs.”


He wrote leaders must use religion to control the masses.

“Because mankind is intrinsically wicked, he has to be governed,” Strauss wrote. “Such governance can only be established, however, when men are united - and they can only be united against other people.” Leaders must always provide an enemy.

Straussian teachings spark delusions of grandeur in neocon intellectuals, who imagine themselves as the wise ruling elite, set free of the bonds of honesty and equality."

http://www.lompocrecord.com/articles/2006/02/06/opinions/020606c.txt