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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:15 AM
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Congress approves digital TV delay... until JUNE !!!
Congress approves digital TV delay... until JUNE!!!

Congress approves digital TV delay | Reuters

http://uk.reuters.com/article/autoNews/idUKTRE5136YP20090204

Wed Feb 4, 2009 10:53pm GMT

By Kim Dixon

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

The U.S. switch to digital television signals will be delayed four months until June under legislation that cleared Congress on Wednesday and now goes to President Barack Obama for his signature into law.

Obama supports the delay
, sharing concerns that 20 million mostly poor, elderly and rural households were not ready for the congressionally mandated switch.

The bill delaying the changeover to June 12 from February 17 cleared the U.S. House of Representatives in a 264-158 vote and followed Senate passage last month.

About 13 million people hold expired $40 coupons the government was providing to offset the costs of converter boxes needed for older televisions, according to Consumers Union. The government ran out of coupons last month and millions of requests for coupons are pending.

"We believe it is irresponsible to ask mostly rural, or elderly consumers to reach into their own pockets to deal with this transition when many folks, including the federal government, are making a profit," said Joel Kelsey, a policy analyst at Consumers Union.

Airwaves to be vacated by television broadcasters after the switch were purchased mostly by AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications Inc in an auction that raised about $19 billion for the U.S. government.

Both companies agreed to a short one-time delay and their licenses will be extended under the bill.

For the most part, only viewers with older sets that receive broadcast analog signals and do not get cable or satellite television, must act to prevent their screens from going black after the switch.

Most Republicans opposed the delay, arguing it would create more confusion after years and millions of dollars had been spent by the government and private industry to advertise the February switch.

FCC Acting Commissioner Michael Copps said earlier this week the agency had been working on a "plan B" in case the Congress extended the deadline.

CABLE, BROADCAST IMPACT

The two largest cable companies, Comcast Corp and Time Warner Cable Inc, have said they see an opportunity to add new subscribers who in the past might not have taken pay-TV services.

The nation's nearly 1,800 full-power television stations can switch to digital early if they notify the FCC and the public under the bill.

But most consumers do not have to worry about losing channels, according to a broadcast industry source.

"For competitive reasons, I think most stations won't go early," the source said, noting "sweeps week," which sets rates for some advertisers, is in March.

One company actively opposing the delay was Qualcomm Inc, which paid about $550 million to use the vacated spectrum to extend a roll-out of its mobile video service.


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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:41 AM
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1. I'm glad they delayed it
the delay will help people in poor areas and also those in the rural areas.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 05:11 AM
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3. Me too... my coupn expired and
I didn't get the benefit of the discount coupon.

Looks like I may get it before June, now!! :D
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 03:44 AM
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2. I'm glad.
:)

I haven't received my coupon for the converter in the mail yet. x(
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 05:13 AM
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4. Me too and neither have 13 MILLION people received the coupon.
The Bush FCC purposefully undermined and underfunded the program.

BUT the Dems corrected it ... today! The new coupons are on their way now!!

By June, I hope! :D
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:08 AM
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7. how much money was wasted with the Coupon re-do..?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:56 PM
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15. I'm not sure but if the coupon expired, the money was transferred to other people. n/t
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 05:57 AM
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5. Three of the five over-the-air TV stations in Dayton (OH) announced that they are stopping
the analog signal on February 17 anyway. The other two didn't say what they were going to do. Apparently, under this new bill they are allowed to do this.

Got my converter with the coupon in November (used it as a "joke" Christmas present). At least for us, the reception is much better than before and you get more viewing choices at each station.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:09 AM
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8. what do they cost with a coupon..??
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:32 AM
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11. I got a cheap basic converter for just a little over $40. With the $40 coupon,
it just cost me a couple of bucks.
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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:33 AM
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12. I paid $20.00 at Best Buy. n/t
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:06 AM
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6. "Most Republicans opposed the delay".. thats because they believe a mans wealth indicates gods favor
to him.. thats why it is a sin against god to tax a rich man..

god doesn't like poor people and either do ReThuglicans, they probably believe they get gods favor by tormenting them
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:23 AM
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9. Good Intentions Gone Bad...
This is gonna create more confusion, not less.

Almost every TV station has invested millions in building their digital stations...a brand new station from the antenna on down. All the while they've had to maintain aging analog equipment. Many station can't afford to maintain the two systems and the delay will compound problems. In some cases, the stations need the analog signal to shut off before they can complete their digital installation...increasing their signal that many may now have problems receiving...the delay now puts back that work adding to costs.

Thus it looks like we'll get a mish-mash. Some stations will still switch on February 17th, others will wait til June. Some may see their favorite channels disappear and have to try to find them again on low power signals until all the analog signals are shut off. In the end, the people this legislation was supposed to help could be even more confused and angry.

Under the old rule, not all analog was going away...low power stations and translators that cover many inner cities (many that feature ethnic programming) will remain for the foreseeable future. Not all TV is going away. Also, broadcasters are working at trying to fill the holes some viewers are encountering due to the very directional nature of DTV...and this delay may help get some of those problems resolved.

But on the whole its a net minus...the problems people are encountering today, they'll still be having in June.
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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:31 AM
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10. And some people still won't be ready.
I think we had plenty of time. I applied on the first day, received my coupons pretty quickly and purchased the converters for $20.00. I've nad them for almost a year.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 06:44 AM
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13. I wish they would just pull the plug on analog
The sooner, the better.

Who knows, maybe if peoples' TVs actually do go dark, the theory that American Idol is preventing them from rioting will finally be tested.
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 07:34 AM
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14. Agreed. There's life beyond tv... actual life.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 07:06 PM
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17. It isn't just about TV.... it's about 911, the Twin Towers, Katrina and emergency communications...
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 07:06 PM by Breeze54
The Emergency Responders use analog but were unable to use it in both disasters due to clogged phone lines.

Switching the majority of people to digital, frees up analog communication airwaves for emergency responders.

----------

Putting First Responders First: Prioritizing Emergency Communications Spectrum

http://www.cnponline.org/ht/display/...tDetails/i/377

Thursday, April 20, 2006


Testimony of CNP President Tim Roemer Before
the House Energy And Commerce Committee


September 29, 2005

Summary

Poor Communication – First Responders At The WTC


The response at the World Trade Center on September 11 was the largest single emergency response in our nation’s history. Hundreds of firefighters, NYPD, and Port Authority Police converged on Lower Manhattan to participate in the rescue.

What we learned in our investigation is that our first responders did not have the communications they needed or deserved.

Firefighters had a particularly difficult time communicating with one another and with their commanders.

As an FDNY chief in the North Tower told us: “One of the most critical things in a major
operation like this is to have information. Unfortunately, we didn’t have a lot of
information coming in.”

* The fire chiefs in the North Tower lobby didn’t have any reports of what the NYPD helicopters overhead had seen.

* They didn’t know the extent of the damage to the building over their heads.

* They didn’t know the condition of the stairwells.

* They couldn’t get updated information from FDNY dispatch, where dozens of calls were pouring in from civilians on the floors above them. That information would have been extremely valuable to them.

Another chief in the North Tower lobby that day told us that people watching on TV had better information than he did.

Without real-time information, the chiefs were at a huge disadvantage.

They were like generals on a battlefield without reconnaissance, intelligence, or even a current map.

Without real-time information, many fire department units were told simply to head up the stairs and report back via radio.

As the units in the both towers climbed higher, their radio transmissions were disrupted by
the many floors between them and their commanders. Communications with the chiefs in
the lobby became weaker and more sporadic.

Furthermore, the main radio channel for FDNY communications was not designed to handle the number of firefighters at the towers. So many people were trying to speak at once, the transmissions overlapped and often became indecipherable. Because that channel was so overwhelmed, it was impossible for the chiefs to track the location of the many FDNY units in the towers.

At 9:59 that morning, the South Tower collapsed. A general evacuation order was issued for firefighters in the North Tower. Some did not receive the evacuation order over their radios, but were alerted in person by other units. Some did not receive the order at all. Some received the order, but did not evacuate with great urgency: Many disregarded the order to stay and search for civilians.

Some waited for members of their teams to regroup before they headed down the stairs Some were tired, so they rested in stairwells before continuing down.

Many firefighters in the North Tower didn’t even know that the South
Tower had collapsed. Even chiefs in the North Tower lobby didn’t learn of the collapse of the South Tower for 30 minutes.

Several firefighters who survived told us that they, and others who did not survive, would have evacuated more urgently if they had known of the South Tower’s collapse.

NYPD communications were generally better, because most NYPD officers were not climbing the Towers, but were outside evacuating civilians and controlling crowds.

Meanwhile, most Port Authority Police had no way to hear any commands issued over the World Trade Center command frequency.

Poor Communications Between Agencies

As we learned in our investigation, the quality of communications varied from agency to agency. But radio communications and operational coordination between agencies was uniformly a problem, at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

For example:

* Fire chiefs in the lobbies of the towers got no information from the police helicopters circling above. Reports that called into question the condition of the North Tower, at 10:08, 10:15, and 10:221 a.m., would have been extremely valuable information for the FDNY chiefs in the North Lobby.

* Many redundant searches were conducted that morning. For example, firefighters wasted valuable time searching the PATH transit station under the Trade Center, not knowing that the area had already been cleared by Port Authority officers.

* Even at the Pentagon, where the emergency response effort was a comparative success, the Arlington Country After-Action Report concluded that “almost all aspects of communications (were) problematic.” The report also notes that “radio channels were initially oversaturated.”

The courage and determination of the first responders saved thousands of lives that morning.

They risked their lives, and many gave their lives, to rescue people they had never met.

They performed far beyond what we would ever have any right to expect. Had they received timely information that morning, many of those brave firefighters and police officers could have saved more lives, and their own lives.

As we said in our report, “The first responders of today live in a world transformed by the attacks on 9/11. Because no one believes that every conceivable form of attack can be prevented, civilians and first responders will again find themselves on the front lines.”

To help those on the front lines, the 9/11 Commission made a common-sense recommendation:

Congress should reallocate broadcast spectrum for public safety purposes.

Conclusion

Hurricane Katrina reminds us that this problem has not been solved.

Poor communications delayed emergency response.

Poor communications again cost lives.


* New Orleans and three neighboring parishes were using different equipment and different frequencies—they couldn’t talk to each another.

* Helicopter crews couldn't talk to rescuers in boats.

* National Guard commanders in Mississippi had to use human couriers to carry messages.

* After Katrina, communications for first responders must become an urgent priority for this Congress.

* We should not have to learn these lessons a third time.

The transition to Digital TV offers us the perfect opportunity to fulfill this recommendation.

The analog TV spectrum is ideal for public safety use.

Emergency communications on these frequencies can easily penetrate walls, and travel great distances.


more...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 06:58 PM
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16. Is there a reason I'm supposed to give a shit about this?
I mean who gives a shit? You've either got a TV that receives digital broadcasts or you don't, you either buy a box or you don't. What do I care?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 09:47 PM
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18. Think 9-11 and Katrina and what happened to the Emergency Responders Communication. - Google it. n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 09:52 PM
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19. Good news for a lot of people.
!
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