Listen as our sweet young fighting soldiers become fucking animals

[no_to_war_economy]

killers are not born but created

prepare to cry: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17393.htm

[itsrobert]

1. What's the evidence

that says these Iraqi's were unarmed civilians? I can't tell by that video.

[no_to_war_economy]

2. yeah right, insurgents drive back into the scene in which they have just attacked

standard procedure after a insurgent attack, shoot everywhere and shoot anything in the area

[shance]

3. Let's see........its an occupied territory that has been for the past four years

they have essentially little or no electricity, little or no running water in the occupied areas (unless of course your in the VIP Halliburton suites) The Iraqis houses have been raided, ransacked nightly, their family members have been raped and/or murdered.

All of their possessions have been rummaged through and/or totally confiscated.

Where in the world are they going to hide the arsenal of weaponry?

[Wcross]

4. Discussed and doubted on this thread;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x496074

I am highly doubtful of the claim of a civilian massacre in this particular video. (As are others)

[no_to_war_economy]

5. I am not debating if the video is a slaughter of innocents

I am pointing out how young men can kill with such glee

[Igel]

6. How can boxers gloat after they've beaten somebody?

How can political partisans look at their vanquished foes' anguish and party?

Same reason: You fight, you win, you celebrate. You lived, and those that would have celebrated *your* death--and, if they had a video camera around, would film the desecration of your bodies--did not.

Why deny that humans are primates, mammals, vertebrates ... in a word, animals?

[Contrary1]

7. In the other thread you argue...

"As a matter of fact the clip specifically states that no unarmed people were killed."

I have no way of knowing what happened, whether it was a massacre or justified shoot.
But the disclaimer at the end of the film is no proof either.

[Wcross]

8. So why claim unarmed civilians were killed?

We have no way of knowing. The problem as I see it is we have sent our fighting men in harms way and then second guess their actions. As harsh as this may sound I would rather them take whatever action they deem necessary to preserve their own lives rather than wonder if it will "look bad" to some blogger sitting at home in front of their computer.
Has there EVER been a pretty war? Has there EVER been a war where innocents were not killed? Sure, direct your anger at the grunt on the ground if you wish. The blame lies at the very top of that grunts chain of command.

[sanskritwarrior]

9. I've already had one of these threads pulled down

if you can prove the troops are killing unarmed civilians, do so.

I have responded with my viewpoint on being in a firefight in Iraq. This was a two sided firefight........So either prove that your claim is true, or do not break the rules about slandering American soldiers.

[no_to_war_economy]

10. I will say it again

I am not debating if the video is a slaughter of innocents

I am saddened by how young men kill with such glee

[sanskritwarrior]

11. I hate to break it to you

but I've had great glee when we killed the guy trying to kill us.........

War is funny like that, you celebrate when you live.......how quaint..... :sarcasm:

These guys are not acting like animals, there are acting like every soldier I know that discovers they are going to live the enemy died, and none of their friends died........including myself