Dean will not be HHS secretary.

[ulysses]

He's not post-partisan. Believe me when I say that I would love it were it to happen. But it won't.

[mike_c]

1. was HRC post-partisan?

What does post partisan mean, anyway? Someone who was not part of the partisanship of the last dozen or so years? Daschle? BIDEN?

[ColbertWatcher]

3. Good point. n/t

[ulysses]

7. far as I can tell,

"post partisan" means "comforting Republicans". Same with HRC. Biden who?

[madfloridian]

13. "comforting Republicans" ...LOL good one.

:hi:

That is EXACTLY what Post Partisan is.

[FiveGoodMen]

15. Aid and comfort to the enemy, then

[ulysses]

18. not sure how you mean this.

Are you saying that being partisan is giving aid and comfort to the GOP?

[FiveGoodMen]

20. No. I'm saying that "comforting republicans" is giving aid and comfort to the enemy

[ulysses]

22. my bad.

I agree. :)

[FiveGoodMen]

23. not at all

:toast:

[mike_c]

16. indeed....

"I'm sorry the rational folks among us feel bad because your party fucked the country six ways from Sunday, but let's set that aside for now. Why don't I bend over and spread my legs just to show there's no hard feelings, huh?"

THAT'S post-partisanship!

[Hydra]

2. Of course it wouldn't happen

Because it's a good thing.

Speaking of "post-partisan," does it look post-partisan to anyone out there?

[ColbertWatcher]

4. You know what is "post-partisan?" Professionalism.

Being able to do your job with people that you might not agree with on personal matters.

[ulysses]

10. so, again,

we follow many years of Republican rapine with a few years of Democratic "professionalism" (watch the discussion creep to the right!), followed by...?

[ColbertWatcher]

25. Professionalism doesn't just define behavior ...

... it defines expectations too.

Meaning we expect better.

At least I do.

[ulysses]

26. imagine this: you're in a really interesting book club

with a guy who insists on reading nothing but The Bridges of Madison County over and over, and who threatens to beat up those who want to read anything else. Is "expecting better" making nice with this fool, or is it, once the book is read and known to be trash, telling him to shut the fuck up and reading something worthwhile?

[ColbertWatcher]

27. It's a standard that disqualifies your disrupter from membership.

And no one will take him seriously or include him in any more functions.

Professionalism requires discipline too.

[ulysses]

28. so, when we're confronted with a party

whose singular reply to any situation is "TAX CUTS!", what are we to do with them?

[ColbertWatcher]

29. You don't really expect me to solve that in one post do you?

I don't have the answer to that and I won't pretend that I do.

All I know is that we should be raising the level of discourse and not putting up with anymore childish bullshit from the GOP or letting any of it pass without destroying it.

In a professional manner, of course.

[ulysses]

30. I think the answer is easier than you seem to think it is.

One doesn't unilaterally disarm in the middle of a war.

[ColbertWatcher]

35. I don't see how being professional is "disarming."

Unless you mean it the respectful type of "disarming" and not the "disarming" where you surrender all your defenses.

[ulysses]

36. I don't think you understand what we're up against.

Eight years of Bush and people still envision this happy-dippy world in which the Republicans are jumping out of their skins to do their best by the American people? Dear god.

[ColbertWatcher]

37. You assume I don't because I'm not agreeing with you. I'm done here. n/t

[ulysses]

38. no.

It's entirely possible to fail to agree with me and yet understand what we face. Adios.

[Why Syzygy]

5. Correct me if I'm wrong .

.but when he signed the health plan in VT, he had a republican't congress.

[Bluebear]

6. Everything has to be "post-partisan" since the Republics are not in the majority.

:crazy:

[ulysses]

12. after all, they're nice fellows who'd treat us the same were the tables turned.

:argh:

[Bluebear]

14. Isn't that the truth.

[nevergiveup]

8. I agree although

sometimes Obama has been known to surprise. He needs someone who can work with and sway the Democrats from conservative districts/states and the few remaining moderate Republicans. Could Howard Dean do this? I am skeptical but I like him so much I would be willing to take the chance.

[ohtransplant]

9. I think our new President is learning...

the republics in congress aren't post-partisan either.

[ulysses]

21. it's funny, but I seem to remember a time, not so long ago,

when playing nice with the GOP - to the point of nearly joining their party - got us kicked repeatedly in the balls.

Oh yeah! It was the Clinton years!

[ohtransplant]

24. It seems he's getting the express version of the same lesson.

I hope he takes it to heart. He seems like a fast learner.

Time will tell...

[madinmaryland]

11. Are the rethuglicans "post partisan"??

Fuck no.

and FUCK THEM.

Bring on Howard Dean!

[JFN1]

17. none of his picks have been post partisan

n/t

[ulysses]

19. *cough* Judd Gregg *cough* deal to replace with Repuke *cough*

[valerief]

31. Is that like being post-modern? nt

[ulysses]

32. post-modernism is a barrel of shit too.

So, yeah. :D

[valerief]

33. Hey, I gave it to you on platter! nt

[ulysses]

34. and I appreciate it!

:D