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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:49 PM
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GOP's Latest Talking Point©: "jobs that produce wealth."
Can anyone deconstruct the bullshit here?

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:51 PM
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1. where are they????
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 02:51 PM by LSK
Where have they been for the past 8 years?

:shrug:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:51 PM
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2. Jobs that increase THEIR wealth, they mean.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:00 PM
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10. You're probably right. n/t
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:19 PM
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14. I concur
As a machinist I make the "widgets". Now I do it in 32 hour work weeks instead of 40 hours. Now they want another 3% off the top.

Why?

Because the widgets aren't creating enough wealth for the owners so they urge my colleagues and me to make more, make it on time and do it for less.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:51 PM
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3. I just heard that idiot Coburn
on MSNBC saying that government jobs aren't stimulative. Does he think that people who work for the government don't spend their paychecks? What a tool.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:55 PM
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4. That guy sounded so off his rocker. He said ZERO Gvmnt. jobs create wealth!?!?
The anchor asked, "so all Government doctors for example create no wealth?" Response, "NO!" This guy only sees the bottom line for he and his cronies.

Now we've got ass-hat Graham up there swaying back and forth looking smug as ever.

This is so pathetic that these idiots on TV are our Government.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:59 PM
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8. I think the GOP are trying to frame government jobs ...
... as the opposite of jobs.

I guess he believes government employees are paid in cardboard or something.

We should figure out what Coburn believes people who work for government get paid and send him a whole shitload of them with a note saying he better give his cash back.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:23 PM
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16. I guess I'm a little sensitive to this...
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 03:24 PM by Blue_In_AK
since my father's government jobs are what fed me as a kid. My dad was a civil service contract negotiator who worked for the Air Force Academy Construction Agency and NORAD in the '50s, and the Apollo program at NASA in the '60s. I'm sure my family stimulated the economy quite a bit in those years.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:48 PM
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17. I think Coburn and his fellow morans in the GOP need a little help understanding ...
... how the economy works.

But how can we do this?

I started a page on the Truthiness Encyclopedia (http://www.wikiality.com/The_Economy/Primer ) that was supposed to be a satirical explanation for how the American economy (doesn't) work.

But I hit a wall.

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:56 PM
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5. ...were shipped overseas...
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 02:59 PM by Garbo 2004
They're still babbling Reaganomics after it's spectacular failure.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:58 PM
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6. bwahahahah!!!
Oh, that's rich!! :rofl:

For the last 8 years, all I have heard is how lazy I am and what a drag I am on society for having to be "spoon-fed a paycheck" instead of getting off my lazy ass, starting my own business and becoming a mover and shaker. Now, all of a sudden their rhetoric is that "jobs produce wealth". What a fucking joke.

These fuckers need to be tarred, feathered and run out on a rail by a mob with torches and pitchforks! :grr:
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 02:59 PM
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7. I'm not positive, but maybe "jobs for the upper middle class and wealthy"?
as in, why bother creating jobs for working people since they won't get wealthy anyway?

Not positive.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:00 PM
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9. Jobs that produce wealth for everybody but the one doing the work!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:07 PM
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11. I'm of the school that believes all wealth is created by labor. (But labor doesn't get the wealth.)
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 03:10 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug:

"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital and deserves much the higher consideration."
-- Abraham Lincoln
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:10 PM
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12. Are they talking about Union Jobs?
They bitch about unions getting too much "wealth" and they want to do away with unions and now they are talking about jobs that create wealth. Is it possible for me to hate conservative values more then I already do?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 04:29 PM
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18. I think we have a winner. The GOP must be talking about UNION JOBS.
Well done!

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:10 PM
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13. What? From the party of Cheap Labor?
The party of Off shoring?

The party of union busting?
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 03:21 PM
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15. CEOs
their beleaguered friends.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 04:33 PM
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19. Let's break down this argument.
When you are unemployed, you have no money coming in. When you are employed, you have money coming in. Since money coming in is greater than no money coming in, you are making money. As such, making money creates wealth, because before you had nothing. Let's recap: a job makes you money, while no job makes you no money. Money is an essential part to accumulating wealth. Without making money, you can't accumulate wealth. Therefore, making money will produce wealth for you.

Any questions?
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 04:39 PM
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20. Also,
You will then have money to spend that will enrich others.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 04:53 PM
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22. Very nice.
Although it may be a bit long for a bumper sticker!

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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 04:51 PM
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21. I can translate
Stocking Walmart shelf with plastic crap from China. Private sector job - for GOP this = Stimulating

Teaching children to read. Government job - for GOP this = Not Stimulating

Selling beer, cigarettes and soft porn at convenience store. Private sector job - for GOP this = Stimulating

Researching cures for diseases at a state university . Government job - for GOP this = Not Stimulating

Finding ways to screw workers out their pensions and health-care. Private sector job - for GOP this = VERY Stimulating

Inspecting bridges, levees, dams to prevent catastrophic failure. Government job - for GOP this = Not Stimulating

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