Should Obama veto the bill?

[panader0]

Send it back for a better deal? Or am I being naive?

[Muttocracy]

1. Doubt it, but he should read it very very carefully in case of surprises. nt

[tekisui]

2. NO!!!

They will work out some kinks in conference, hopefully. And, then we will just have to pass the rest of it as separate bills.

[liberalmuse]

6. Thanks.

I needed to read something positive. I wish I were more like optimistic like you.

[liberalmuse]

3. Executive order.

I mean, Bush left him all this power. I say, use it.

[Mind_your_head]

9. hehe....that's tempting, isn't it?

but the shrub was 'wrong-headed' and we don't want to validate in ANY WAY that sort of direction.

(My avatar is an image of the Constitution of the United States of America, after all!) :-)

[Duer 157099]

27. Hell ya, Signing Statement - let the next prez undo it if he wants

Show those assholes what unbridled power in the hands of your opposition looks and feels like

[book_worm]

4. No. Also remember this bill has to be reconciled with the House bill.

[Bleacher Creature]

31. BINGO. People need to remember that.

Plus, you can't filibuster a conference report, so it will get better.

Thank God for Nancy Pelosi (did I really just say that?)

[LSK]

5. HELL NO, ARE YOU NUTS???

What better deal???? Where are these mysterious votes coming from?

[Enrique]

7. this is Obama's deal

[panader0]

11. Isn't it just 58-42% Obama's deal now?

[stillcool]

26. not anymore..

I don't think the Senators even know yet what the bill looks like.

[Thrill]

8. NO. The House and the WH can make changes in Conference

and then you only need 50 in the Senate

[Bonn1997]

15. Really?

You only need 50 the 2nd time around in the Senate? That's awesome! I did not know that. Can't they just throw back all the spending they initially had and get rid of a lot of the tax cuts then?

[Thrill]

18. Out of Conference, you only need 50 Senate votes

[Bonn1997]

28. Then why are people freaking out?

Isn't it Reid and Pelosi--two Dems--working out the compromise? Surely, it's not going to be the 58-42 split in the end then.

[Thrill]

29. Only people on DU are going nuts. The Democrats just had a Presser

grinning ear to ear. Patty Murphy and Chuck Schumer were thrilled

[sandnsea]

10. Depends on what it ends up as

If it's not going to work, he should definitely veto it. If they're really going to cut school construction and greening federal buildings and some of Reinvestment part of the bill, then he should veto it.

[Pirate Smile]

12. Are you crazy?

He'll sign it. No doubt.

[backscatter712]

13. I doubt he'll get anything better.

My advice is that he starts pushing for Stimulus 2.0, coming sometime this summer.

Yep, we're going to have multiple rounds of stimulus. I'll bet that was President Obama's plan to begin with - it's easier to cram stimulus bills down the Rethug's throats if you break it into pieces.

[Breeze54]

14. He should veto the Rethugs that are holding it up!!

:sarcasm: If only he would/could. :puke:

The rethugs are defiantly stupid!!!

[MrSlayer]

16. Signing statements.

Obama should just use the signing statement to put in what he wants and take out what he doesn't want. Chimpy did it all the time.

[bluestateguy]

21. Ooh. Good idea.

I'm all for the Imperial Presidency.

Just so long as I like the president and approve of his policies.

[leeman67]

25. A-fucking-men!

then let's sit back and watch the Repugs gnash their teeth with outrage that someone has the nerve to act like they would.

[elleng]

17. no

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[bluestateguy]

19. No, sign it and immediately demand a supplemental stimulus bill

Perhaps in the Senate they could take the spending that was cut from this bill and fold it into the FY budget resolution, which is not allowed to be filibustered.

[Myrina]

20. YES!!! And Often!!!

It ultimately is not going to do what we need the economy to do: put people back to work.
It is going to give those already in the 'middle class' (read: Pelosi and Reid's contributors) another tax cut.
And not repeal the Bush Tax Cuts.

They're putting Obama in the position to look like the bad guy and be labeled 'the obstructionist' for not signing it,
but IMO he needs to put on the Big Boy Pants & veto it as many times as it takes until they send him the plan he originally wanted.


:mad: :mad:

[jillan]

22. He may not like all those tax cuts.

It will be interesting to see what he does.

[Duer 157099]

23. YES! Then let them filibuster, if they dare. Absolutely

This compromising (which is really just pure capitulation) is just utter bullshit and needs to end.

[stillcool]

24. The Democrats should filibuster

[Bleacher Creature]

30. Veto a Senate Bill? Not Constitutionally possible.

Let's see what actually hits his desk before we start talking about a veto as I suspect that a lot of these "compromises" will get fixed in Conference.