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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:31 AM
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Has anyone notice the rising price of gas again...are we suckers...
Did they just lowered it at Christmas so we had some money left to buy stuff. Obama needs to blast them windfall profits.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:36 AM
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1. Yep .....
We are fish in a fucking bowl ....

I am so tired of their gouging and manipulation ....

If nationalization is good for Iraq, then why is it NOT good for the US ?

Why does the oil industry get cheap access to OUR resources in order to sell us what we already own ?

It's a fucking racket ....
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:38 AM
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2. Fill up now.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:43 AM
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3. $2.04 here north of NY city.
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:48 AM
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5. how about shrinking food!!
noticed today that my favorite ice cream has been downsized AGAIN!! but the price is the same.................
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:15 PM
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26. Same here, Westchester County. Last week it was $1.89. n/t
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:46 AM
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4. a scent of blood in our watery economy..
possibly known as a "stimulous package"...if people somehow get money to spend, watch the sharks flex their fins! 45 billion in profits ain't enough next quarter...sharks can't swim backwards, you know!
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:57 AM
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10. Oh no
I hadn't even thought of that. I'll walk and bike as much as possible if I get any stimulus money.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 02:14 AM
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11. It's best to keep to one's new formed habits in this case
It's best to be frugal and conserve even if you get more money because the corporations exist in order to separate you from it.
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:19 PM
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27. agreed. I still drive my SUV to work and back about 30 miles a week
with the weekly trip to pay bills and groceries, nothing has changed even with the drop in prices.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:48 AM
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6. Yep. My blood pressure goes up every time I pass the gas
station on the corner. Is the price of crude still like $35 a barrel? Last time I looked at it, it was, and I saw an increase of about 20% in gas prices
with a decrease of about 25% in crude.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:00 AM
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7. its simple really. we pay what they charge. it has alway been so...
that makes you a consumer. a sucker? some would argue that the definitions are the same.

but ask yourself this... what are you going to do? about that gas price that goes up and down like it has since the beginning of gas prices.

what are you going to do?



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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:12 PM
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25. I bought a 70+mpg vehicle over the winter
I'm fully expecting $4.50 gas again.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:16 AM
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8. Their Friends in Congress Are Chopping Out the Transit Funding so You'll Have to Drive
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CRF450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:19 AM
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9. Went up some here last month, but its been stable for a few weeks
In my drive around town today, gas prices still hasent gone up. Maybe its just a regional thing?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 02:56 AM
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12. I have noticed that ....
They play a game with the American consumers. They take the price of oil and gas sky high and then... when they have drained our pockets...they take the price back down again. They say it is just the "market" - the law of supply and demand. But should we really believe that??

When it does go down, it never seems to go below the level where a profit is no longer made. There is no deflation in the oil market. Then they take the price up again and the cycle repeats itself over and over and over...
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:12 AM
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13. Went up ten cents here today.
Monmouth County, New Jersey.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:04 AM
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14. Highest prices for gas?
Pipeline/Big Oil-owned Alaska.

Seriously.

One state senator said (after a 4-month "investigation") that it was his "intuition" that our prices are artificially inflated.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:21 AM
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15. I filled up for $1.74/gal yesterday
Why is there such disparity between prices in different regions?
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:49 AM
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21. A lot of it is because states charge different gas taxes
States with low gas tax pay for roads from general revenue, which is just subsidizing automobile usage.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 05:39 AM
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16. The oil companies haven't built any refineries in almost 30 years...
which gives them 'just enough' capacity, but will control the supply, and manipulates the price higher. In the meantime, we're still subsidizing the crooks to the tune of 18 billion dollars! For years, I have always believed that any state could build one refinery, and buy oil on the world market, refine, and sell it to the independent dealers, they would break the monopoly. But the oil companies have pumped over six million into lobbying, which is enough to buy the politicians.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:08 AM
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17. "Smirk." - Republicon oil crony fatcats
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:13 AM
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18. In SW Ohio it is at $1.68 not. It's gone up to the $1.80's twice in the last couple
Edited on Sat Feb-07-09 06:17 AM by pampango
of months, then drops back down again. It seems like they're trying to raise the price permanently, but can't make it stick. Of course, they could be something else entirely going on.

Historically gas prices almost always hit their annual bottom in midwinter then rise during the spring to hit a summer high. The economy is suppressing demand. Unless it picks up, which doesn't seem likely soon, the spring gas price rise may not be the same as in the past.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 06:31 AM
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19. Here is a stock chart of a Natural Gas Mutual Fund
The shares took a major dive since last summers high. (high in summer?) They are probably down 60%. If anything, it looks like major corruption in the bush administration to me. Notice the correlation between the bush years and the stock price.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.aspx?symbol=FSNGX
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:26 AM
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20. Typical seasonal price rise?

http://www.spectrumcommodities.com/education/commodity/charts/hu.html

I'd guess it will be over $2 by spring....think Memorial Day.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:11 AM
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22. Last week Exxon once again announced a new World Record quarterly profit
Anyone suprised? The sister companies will soon follow suite.
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:55 AM
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23. Compare usage to supply. The answers might be there.
Published results for when gas prices got REALLY expenses showed consumption actually outstripped production, which forced the Saudi's to start dumping reserves onto the market and spiked prices until demand destruction occured. I haven't seen recent quarterly reports though, so I have no idea what the exact issues are with supplies. A big issue that is happening is that low crude prices are harming future supply sources. Oil sands have a 30$ break even, and numerous gulf deep water fabs in production were canceled because of the price crash. Saudi pumping at 2$/bbl isn't going to last forever though.

In this case it's likely OPEC production cuts to try and get the price to their desired price point of ~70$/bbl.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:26 PM
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28. it just so happens the DOE does it for us.....
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:11 PM
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24. What bothers me is how long it was kept ARTIFICIALLY high.
During the Bush admin, even during the time we had some control in the Senate, although I can understand that that Senate control was tenuous.
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