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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:00 PM
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Depleted Uranium.... educate yourself
Edited on Fri Jan-26-07 07:18 PM by Jokinomx
Follow the link to view a disturbing video on the consequences of depleted uranium. I can't vouch for the statistics used...but anybody that has looked into this tragedy even a little will understand that what this video portrays is true.

Not for the squeemish... but an important piece if your trying to see the entire picture of what our country is doing.

http://www.ericblumrich.com/pl_lo.html

:-( :-( :-( :cry: :cry: :cry:

WARNING.... VERY GRAPHIC....
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PreacherCasey Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:06 PM
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1. Appreciate the vid, but you need a stronger warning!
I've never seen such graphic footage of children.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:20 PM
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4. Sorry,.....
You are correct... and I did add another warning.

Between your post and my addition, it should be enough to help people to decide whether to continue...

Peace...

Jokinomx
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PoiBoy Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:09 PM
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2. Beyond Treason
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:33 PM
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7. Thanks for the links....
It is truly sad that our government asks our servicemen and women to sacrifice so much and they are treated like crap!

Peace...

Jokinomx
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:17 PM
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3. Depleted Uranium will affect American civilians too
and not just armed forces members serving overseas or inhabitants of war zones.

This is from a recent post on the topic of DU munitions testing affecting US civilians:


The fiery “hot” issue of Depleted Uranium explosives “testing” has emerged into the spotlight in the San Francisco Bay area recently all because of some people who live in a city called Tracy. That’s how anything important usually starts - when just a few people who are fed up enough get together and become vocal enough and publicly put up a fuss.

No wonder why they’re upset. Only a few miles away from them on a federally owned 7,000 acre parcel of land in the Altamont Hills at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in San Joaquin and Alameda Counties, California, radioactive explosives containing Depleted Uranium are being shot out into the open air at a location called Site 300. Yes, Depleted Uranium is being exploded across the street from a motorbike recreational area. Site 300 is only a few miles away from where people live.

What started all the ruckus was that on November 13 a new permit, issued by California’s San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District, was put into effect that allows the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory to use more than triple the amount of explosive materials in “test” detonations at Site 300 than in the past. This means that the equivalent of 350 pounds of explosives may now be fired instead of the previously permitted 100 pounds.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x37430
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:24 PM
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5. WTF!!
What the hell is wrong with this country? I can't believe our military would put in jeopardy its own citizens!!

There are so many areas our government owns that are hundreds of miles from society. Yet they continue to use these weapons close to people.

It is simply mindboggling...

Thanks for sharing your post....

Peace...

Jokinomx
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:32 PM
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6. Actually it isn't the military.....it is the civilian control of the military...
that your finger should be pointed at.....start with the president, work your way to the civilian secretary of Defense, then pointed to the sides of the executive at the congressional arm of things......and then you might get an answer.

Write to your Representative and ask him to ban it. Send him the science with it.

In the end, it's up to us...and we need to make sure that we are holding the correct folks accountable, or else we're no better than than they are.

Peace to you as well.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 07:34 PM
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8. Great points...
I am in complete agreement with your points.... and I will send a letter to my representatives voicing my concerns.

Thanks for the clarification.

Peace

Jokinomx
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:05 PM
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9. Frenchiecat is right!
Many times, the military gets demonized for things they're not responsible for ... they are under the command, and control, of civilian bosses who can choose to use them for good. Or not, as in the case of this administration. I'm not saying they're completely blameless, after all, I've heard there are little fiefdoms amongst some of the top generals and military politics is supposedly pretty brutal. But for the most part, they follow orders from the Executive Office.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:08 PM
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12. If I was a general being asked to poison my fellow citizens
with toxic substances and use undercover chemical warfare against enemy civilians, I would resign, but then, that's just me.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:04 PM
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15. Hypotheticals are just that....If I was a senator who knew that I could
write a bill offering legislation to ban DU until the science was proven to show it not harmful....I would do it.

So you can blame the Generals who get their orders from the Secretary of Defense, who works for the President and is confirmed by the Senate if you want.

You see the thing about principles is that they apply to everyone, not just those we choose.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:08 PM
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11. I think the weapons/defense industry...
Is the U.S.Government.

http://www.playboy.com/magazine/features/lockheed/

by Richard Cummings
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That's how D.C. works. Many of the people making decisions have been in and out of the same set of revolving doors connecting government, conservative think tanks, lobbying firms, law firms and the defense industry. So strong is the bond between lobbyists, defense contractors and the Pentagon that it is known in Washington as "the iron triangle." And this triangle inevitably gets what it wants. Why? Because in the revolving door system, a defense contractor executive can surface as an official in the Department of Defense, from which position he can give lucrative contracts to his former employer, and his prospects for an even better paying job in the private sector brighten. Former aides to members of congress become handsomely paid lobbyists for the companies they were able to help in their position on Capitol Hill. Such lobbyists can spread their corporate-funded largesse to the friendliest members and their aides on the Hill. And so on.
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These "blow-dried Republican lobbyists," as one Washington district court judge calls them, wield far more power than most of the elected officials in town. Forget dime-a-dozen congressmen. It's these operatives who get the best tables at the Capital Grille, where the power brokers lunch and sup. The lobbyists have their own lockers there, with personalized nameplates, where they store their vintage wines, ports and whiskies. They dine on the fine aged beef you can see through a window that allows guests to gaze into the refrigerated meat storage area. These people make up the K Street oligarchy that, despite all the vituperative rhetoric in recent years about campaign finance reform and insidious special interests, run Washington
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Stevens has boasted that Lockheed Martin not only creates the technology, it makes military policy as well. He told The New York Times in November of 2004 that Lockheed stands at "the intersection of policy and technology," which, he observed, "is really a very interesting place to be. We are deployed, entirely in developing daunting technology" that "requires thinking through the policy dimensions of national security as well as technology." He acknowledges "this is not a business where in the purest economical sense there's a broad market of supply and demand."

And although he may shine his own shoes, Stevens is paid $7 million a year, not counting bonuses and stock options. In 2002, Stevens left Bush's aerospace commission, becoming a member of the influential Council on Foreign Relations, and Jackson left Lockheed Martin to work on the Project on Transitional Democracies and the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. Stevens and Jackson were tag team wrestlers, Mr. Inside and Mr. Outside, of Team Lockheed. And, increasingly, the distinction between Lockheed Martin and the government began to blur as the war in Iraq became inevitable.



Why the US Is Not Leaving Iraq: The Booming Business of War Profiteers
By Prof. Ismael Hossein-zadeh *
Global Research
January 12, 2007
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"Last summer, in the lull of the August media doze, the Bush Administration's doctrine of preventive war took a major leap forward. On August 5, 2004, the White House created the Office of the Coordinator for Reconstruction and Stabilization, headed by former US Ambassador to Ukraine Carlos Pascual. Its mandate is to draw up elaborate ‘post-conflict’ plans for up to twenty-five countries that are not, as of yet, in conflict. According to Pascual, it will also be able to coordinate three full-scale reconstruction operations in different countries ‘at the same time,’ each lasting ‘five to seven years.’" 11

Here we get a glimpse of the real reasons or forces behind the Bush administration’s preemptive wars. As Klein puts it, "a government devoted to perpetual pre-emptive deconstruction now has a standing office of perpetual pre-emptive reconstruction." Klein also documents how (through Pascual’s office) contractors drew "reconstruction" plans in close collaboration with various government agencies and how, at times, contracts were actually pre-approved and paper work completed long before an actual military strike:

"In close cooperation with the National Intelligence Council, Pascual's office keeps ‘high risk’ countries on a ‘watch list’ and assembles rapid-response teams ready to engage in prewar planning and to ‘mobilize and deploy quickly’ after a conflict has gone down. The teams are made up of private companies, nongovernmental organizations and members of think tanks—some, Pascual told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in October, will have ‘pre-completed’ contracts to rebuild countries that are not yet broken. Doing this paperwork in advance could ‘cut off three to six months in your response time.’"

No business model or entrepreneurial paradigm can adequately capture the nature of this kind of scheming and profiteering. Not even illicit businesses based on rent-seeking, corruption or theft can sufficiently describe the kind of nefarious business interests that lurk behind the Bush administration’s preemptive wars. Only a calculated imperial or colonial kind of exploitation, albeit a new form of colonialism or imperialism, can capture the essence of the war profiteering associated with the recent US wars of aggression. As Shalmali Guttal, a Bangalore-based researcher put it, "We used to have vulgar colonialism. Now we have sophisticated colonialism, and they call it 'reconstruction.' 12
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/contract/2007/0112warprofiteers.htm







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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:05 PM
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10. DU is showing up in Ice Land , europe and the north Polar regions
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:29 PM
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13. The more you look into this... the more unbelievable it becomes...
We are contaminating the entire world for tens of thousands of years.... what a legacy to leave.

Peace...
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:14 PM
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14. it will still be deforming babies when our sun burns out to a red dwarf and expands beyond the orbit
of jupitor..

our Nuclear Corporations make campaign contributions to be allowed to turn radioactive waste into weapons and dump this shit in 3rd world countries
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