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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:25 PM
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Sen. Ensign: It’s ‘Fearmongering’ To Suggest That Any Teachers Would Lose Their Jobs»
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/08/ensign-denies-teacher-layoffs/

Sen. Ensign: It’s ‘Fearmongering’ To Suggest That Any Teachers Would Lose Their Jobs»

On Meet the Press this morning, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) slammed proposed cuts in aid to the states in the stimulus bill, explaining that states are slashing their funding for vital public needs. “That’s the wasteful spending that my colleagues are talking about,” Frank said. “Money to go to the states to stop them from laying off cops and firefighters, money to help keep teachers going. Those are jobs.”

Sen. John Ensign (R-NV) — who began the show by saying that doing nothing would be better than passing this stimulus plan — insisted that states’ budgets are “bloated” and derided Frank’s concerns as “fearmongering,” denying that any teachers, cops, or firefighters would lose their jobs:

To get back to what Congressman Frank said, is that we’re going to be laying off teachers and firefighters. You know, that’s just fearmongering. We’re not going to be doing that in any of the states. … {The states’} budgets are bloated, the federal government’s budget is bloated. What we should be doing is cutting back.


Watch it at link~

The idea that states’ budgets are “bloated” would certainty be news to them. Forty-three of the 50 states are facing budget shortfalls, adding up to a $47.4 billion gap as of January. And with most states required to balance their budgets, they are slashing spending in, among other areas, education, as the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities reported:

Thirty-Four states have cut education or proposed such cuts because they face massive, devastating budget deficits in this recession. <…>

Nearly all states are required to balance their general fund budgets. When large budget deficits develop, education often is cut deeply.


Some examples from the report:

Florida has cut aid to local school districts for the current year by $140 per pupil. South Carolina has cut per-pupil funding by $95 in the current year. Maine has cut K-12 funding about $140 per pupil; this comes on top of education cuts earlier this year that were targeted to reduce specific programs. Georgia’s governor has proposed cutting aid to local school districts for the current year by $115 per pupil, and for the coming fiscal year by $189 per pupil.

California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger proposed a $6 billion cut in education funding. These budget cuts will force districts to halt new teacher hiring, delay new school construction, and shut down other schools — meaning job cuts across the education spectrum. Obama’s pick to head the Department of Educuation, Arne Duncan, recently warned that stimulus dollars were needed immediately to “avert literally hundreds of thousands of teacher layoffs.”

What’s more, as Frank pointed out, it’s not just teachers who need federal stimulus dollars to be pumped into states. States are also cutting their public safety budgets, meaning police and firefighters across the country are losing their jobs.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:32 PM
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1. It's not a lie...
...unless and until someone, at the time, on the same show, says 'You're lying'.

The GOP understands that.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:35 PM
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2. Barney did state the truth, so anyone with a brain could determine
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 12:36 PM by babylonsister
Ensign was lying-especially teachers and firefighters who have been laid off or are concerned it could happen any day now.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:40 PM
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8. You have to say "It's a lie" or "You're lying".
Anything else gets lost. It's designed into those shows. Nothing inferential. Nothing by contrast or comparision. You have to say it. It's like staging an intervention.

Barney's about the best there is, but even he isn't blunt enough.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 02:16 PM
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11. I think you're exactly right. It's not enough to...

... simply provide a contrasting view.

You've got to call a lie a lie, on the spot, every time.

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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:36 PM
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3. Definitely not a lie - here in VA they're already announcing
that some teachers will lose their jobs. My sister is quite nervous about it since she's an ESL teacher...
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:36 PM
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4. Every time someone named George Bush becomes president, I lose my teaching job.
And yes, this was all done under the puppetry of George Bush.

The children always have to pay wall street's bills. That's because children don't vote.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:36 PM
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5. John Ensign should know from "fearmongering", we've just lived through
seven years of it, and Cheney's still out there doing it. I say we take a hard look at the Pentagon budget, and see what can be cut there, first. It's no secret that this is a Repub wet dream to gut the Dept of Education, and have a bunch of morons competing for crappy jobs at McDonald's & Walmart.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:37 PM
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6. We're losing 10% of our certified staff
the rest of us will face 3.5% pay cuts.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:38 PM
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7. Tell that to the teachers of the 12 schools they are closing in Pontiac Mi
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 12:39 PM by notadmblnd
I believe there are also schools in Bloomfield (upscale, very affluent) that will be closed too. Oh and last year, the city of Pontiac managed to keep their fire fighters on the job. It was all of the police they laid off. I think the entire city had 12 working officers. They had to call out Oakland county officers for help in policing the city.

No, teachers, no police or fire personnel will lose their jobs...:sarcasm:
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 01:08 PM
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9. I'm in FL.
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 01:09 PM by marew
Teachers absolutely lost jobs here last summer. Class sizes are larger, MS and HS teachers now teach 6 out of 7 classes a day instead of 5 which leaves less time for correcting papers, individual and parent contact, meetings, etc. Support services were cut. Office staffs were decimated. It already happened! The rethugs need a reality check! It has been a disaster for education here in FL.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 03:02 PM
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13. $12 million in cuts here in Leon County.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 01:44 PM
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10. Sen. Ensign: Stoopid pretty-boy dominionist mouthpiece
whose mind doesn't work any better than it did nearly 30 years ago when I knew him.

Go back to counting money at daddy's casino, John. It's all you were ever qualified to do.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 02:18 PM
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12. Liar and asshole
All over the country teachers are being laid off.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 03:05 PM
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14. Maybe he should take a look at his neighboring state - Az.
They just slashed the education budget here last week.

I'm surprised you guys didn't hear me screaming at my tv when he said that. grrrrrrrrr.
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