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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:01 PM
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Filibuster Math: Dems Should Not Seat Gregg's Replacement (Until Franken is Seated First)
With only 98 Senators seated, the number needed to hold off GOP obstructionism drops to 59...

Presuming President Obama's nomination of NH's Republican Sen. Judd Gregg as Commerce Secretary will be confirmed by his fellow Senators, and presuming the Democratic Governor of NH keeps his backroom "deal" and appoints a Republican to fill Gregg's vacated seat, then Democrats in the Senate ought to take advantage of some arcane filibuster math, and hold up the seating of that replacement until MN's Senate seat is properly filled.

As things stand now, while former Republican Sen. Norm Coleman is taking his sweet time in throwing everything he can think of against the wall to see what might stick, in hopes of winning his MN election contest against presumptive Senator-elect Al Franken, the Dems need two cross-over Republican votes, for a total of 60, to stymie any attempted GOP filibuster. (That math presumes that independent Senators Sanders and Lieberman both vote with the 56 currently-seated Dems, as they do on most matters.)

However, the Senate rule requiring a supermajority (three-fifths of the Senate) to shut down attempted fillibusters with a cloture vote, is based on the number of "Senators duly chosen and sworn" --- in other words, currently seated Senators.

With two seats vacant then, from MN and NH, after Gregg's departure, that would put the number of "duly chosen and sworn" Senators needed to stop a filibuster at just 59 (or, 58.8, to be precise, but since we're not allowed to count Lieberman as .8 of a human, the number needed for cloture would be 59)...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6880

Go for it!!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:03 PM
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Great idea, but I doubt Harry has that kind of fight in him.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:03 PM
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1. Sanders and Lieberman leave the Ds twisting in the wind when it counts
I can't imagine why they're given any consideration at all.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:04 PM
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2. I agree on Leiberman, not on Sanders. He is consistent in his voting.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:41 PM
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5. ok, thanks.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 05:42 PM
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8. Senator Sanders is one of the very few in the Senate you can trust.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:19 PM
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3. I've not been happy with Obama's
choice of Gregg for Commerce. I didn't mind him retaining Gates, for at least a while, but we don't need Republicans in the cabinet. I know Obama wants to be fair, but fairness doesn't have a place in Washington D.C. An integrated Congress will not work. The Republicans haven't shown their appreciation for his fairness. And never will. I think the time is ripe for Obama to issue an executive order a la Bush and tell them what he says goes.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:21 PM
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4. Yah - like Reid would do anything useful.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 04:55 PM
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6. Gregg has not resigned
And won't until he is confirmed.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 05:35 PM
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7. butbutbut
that would be partisan.
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