Need pics: Sefvicemen/women dissing bush...

[CanuckAmok]

There were a few photos a while back, of soldiers not saluting, not standing, etc for Bush.

Anyone have any links?

[TwilightGardener]

1. Wow, they could get in real trouble for that--he's their CIC. Not

sure we'd want to get them in trouble with their commanders.

[CanuckAmok]

3. The ones I remember...

...were mostly crowd shots. You know, at one of his many empty "support the troops" photo-ops.

[MethuenProgressive]

2. Googled the "One Weekend A Month My Ass" photo:

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=9187

[Ian David]

7. Ooh...

[Hekate]

12. That counts as combat-soldier humor, not as insubordination

Our OP needs to understand that military personnel do not have the option of disrespecting their superiors. It's dangerous for them to do so. I'm a lifelong civilian and I understand that much.

That's why we civilians need to take our own part in this seriously in speaking and acting on behalf of the troops.

Hekate

[Ian David]

14. Here's where the blog from the "One Weekend A Month My Ass" guy

http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/06/13/one_weekend_a_month_my_ass.php

Also:

One weekend a month my ass -- a followup

Back in June of this year, I posted an image that showed some Army Reserve troops holding a sign saying "One Weekend a Month My Ass." I received it from a friend of mine whose daughter is in the reserves.

About a month later, the picture (not my site, the picture, as I know I'm not the original source for this article) was mentioned in a New York Times column, and everybody started linking to my site, and directly linking to the graphic, stealing my bandwidth (luckily I had some to spare). Why? Because if you search for one weekend a month my ass on Google, my site's listed first.

Regardless, many people have obviously commented on both of those, especially the one with the original image. Some of the comments posted were from former and current reservists, and are good reads as to why the Army's "One weekend a month, two weeks a year" marketing gimmics are bunk.

About a month ago, I was e-mailed by a reporter from the Victoria Advocate, a newspaper in Victoria, Texas. Apparently, the troops in the original photo are from Victoria, and he was going to write a story about the whole division, etc..., and wanted to use the image. I told him, flat out, journalist-to-journalist, that the image was sent to me and I'm not the original source -- it wasn't mine to take credit for. He understood, and was going to discuss with his editors how to cite the source as he still wanted to use the image.

Long story short, the story was written, but the editors at the paper didn't want to have the word "Ass" in a photo. Go figure. Regardless, a story was written, my site and its comments were quoted.

Unfortunately, the Victoria Advocate is owned by one of the big newspaper chains, and the editors there don't see the need to post all their stories online. I did, however, receive permission from the original reporter to publish the story here. Click on the "Continue Reading" link below to read the full story. It's a good read (and the captions for the "One Weekend a Month My Ass" photo are included, even though they didn't get printed).

More:
http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/09/30/one_weekend_a_month_my_ass_a_followup.php

[Kelly Rupert]

4. You're going to find very few of those,

since insulting superiors is not taken lightly in the military.

[Squatch]

5. You don't have to respect the person, but you will respect the rank

[CanuckAmok]

6. Unless you're being supported by all the AM radio chickenhawks.

Then your dissent is practically obligatory.

Exhibit A:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillary-soldier.htm

[Cabcere]

10. That website...

is it a right-wing version of Snopes or something? :shrug: Just wondering - I checked out the War in Iraq section and pretty much all the items labeled "truth" were pro-Bush and/or anti-Democrat. :shrug: (Or maybe I'm just being paranoid, lol.)

[CanuckAmok]

11. it is.

n/t

[WinkyDink]

15. Hillary isn't the CiC.

[CanuckAmok]

16. I don't think it matters.

She could be the Mayor of Butthump, Arkansas and he could be a mailman; She's an elected official, and he's a public servant being paid with tax dollars from her supporters as well as her detractors. When you're wearing the uniform of public service, expressions of your political opinions aren't to be made public.

[Ian David]

8. If it were me, I'd risk it

According to a poll in the Military Times, 35% of troops in Iraq support Bush. 43% of respondents report that they do not support President Bush.
http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2005_main.php

[CanuckAmok]

9. SWEET!

That's just the link I needed. I love how their other publications are such radical leftie rags as Armed Forces Journal and Federal Times.

I say again: SWEET!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

13. Here:

[Squatch]

17. Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice

“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Only applies to commissioned officers.