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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:13 AM
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The media's lens problem. Bush has a conference - he is "resolute" Decisive"
"Determined" - media trips all over itself covering for the stumbling, bumbling lying fool.

Obama has a news conference - Obama "runs the clock", "lacks concise sound bites", "answers are too long".

This is clear evidence of three things:

The lack of respect/utter contempt of the media for the public, which assumes that they can't or won't process anything more complex than a three word sentence.

The dwindling intellectual talent of the media in its inability to actually follow a train of though or a reasoned answer.

The clear partisanship of the media to be beholden to its owners - corporate America.

Last night was just another big 'ol hunk of evidence of how the media is a huge part of the problem, and at this time, no part of the solution.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:20 AM
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1. Which media boob is saying this?
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:26 AM
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6. That was the pattern in the 8 Bush years, and thus far with Obama.
Kind of like we are now living Short Attention Span Theatre!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:36 AM
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11. I haven't heard Obama being criticised for the presser yet.
If anything the commentators I saw were impressed.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:23 AM
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3. ?
:shrug:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:41 AM
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14. spambot
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:23 AM
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4. The sound bite criticism is important
That's how the media works in the states. It sucks- but that's the reality.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:26 AM
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5. Yup. This is what it must have felt like, minus the physical terror (lucky us),
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 09:27 AM by tom_paine
living in Nazi Germany.

Watching how the media differently treats Nazis and Jews in the same circumstances.

Watching it OVER and OVER and OVER again, thinking the more it is exposed the more it MUST grow weaker.

And then being continually astonished to see it keeps growing stronger, more crazy and more obvious. Yet still it grows in power.

The Bushies, at least until the roundup, slave labor camps, beating and killing start, maybe as soon as 5 years or as late as 25 years. IF that's the way the Bushies take it, which I think now that they've got this craziness started, that's where it is eventually going no matter whether they want it to or not, and I think they want it to very much.

Think about it. Life in America is the biggest, greatest Disney E-ride in human history.

STEP RIGHT UP FOLS AND RIDE THE MOST AMAZING RIDE OF YOUR LIVES! FEEL AND I MEAN REALLY FEEL WHAT THE GERMAN JEWS MUST HAVE FELT IN THE 1930S! EXPERIENCE REALITY MELTED LIKE BUTTER USING BUSHIGANDA, I MEAN, NAZIGANDA! EXPERIENCE WHAT IT FELT WHERE THE TRUTH CANNOT BE HEARD NO MATTER HOW LOUD IT IS SCREAMED! EXPERIENCE THE "LIBERAL MEDIA" AS IT IS QUICKLY AND SEAMELESSLY INTEGRATED INTO THE GLORIOUS REICH!

FEEL ALL OF THIS, AND BE IN NO PHSYICAL DANGER YOURSELF!


I'll say this: What a fucking ride these last 30 years have been, especially the last 8. Better and more terrifying that anything Walt Disney or any Carnival Ride Designer Ever Conceived.

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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:28 AM
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7. Obama is playing them like a piano
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 09:29 AM by boobooday
Imagine a president demanding time on the public airwaves, not to spew soundbites, but to talk substantively to the American people. He makes them follow him to Indiana! He forces them to talk about icky things like economic justice and how tax cuts for the rich are killing us!

Bush made lots of stupid/scary soundbites and provided lots of visuals of things blowing up. Even dimwitted mannequins can comment on that. Obama is shining a spotlight on their inanity, and they are squirming.

Edit to add: Axelrod on Maddow last night was a beautiful example. She even complemented him for it.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:29 AM
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8. Can anyone forget how the Media used to chant---"this popular
President(GWB)" almost as if they dared any Democrat to
even have a harsh thought about him. They used this to
try to force the Dems on the Hill to vote with him.

Some could say they realize how stupid they were to let
GWB lead them around by the nose. However, just jumping
on Obama with two feet, trying to prove to the GOP they
are not biased just makes them look more stupid.

If they ever want their integrity and believeabilty back, all
they have to do is be honest. 2. Show they understand the
issues. Right now, they appear to try to cause conflict.
They look for some little insignificant thing and try to create
a storm.

How did Cronkite, Severeid, Huntley &Brinkley, A. Smith, R. Mudd
manage to command so much respect. You never saw them acting
as if they were a high school clique. When they spoke, Americans
listened.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:30 AM
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10. I'll never forget watching one newshead refer to Bush
As a "popular wartime president" while standing in front of a huge graphic that showed his approval rating at 40%.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:29 AM
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9. Poor twittering birds
They can't take small bites of what he says, chew them up and regurgitate them as "news" to the masses.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:38 AM
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12. And Obama knows it.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 09:49 AM by rocktivity
Note how he openly disagreed with Chuck Todd's premise that consumer overspending caused the financial crisis. The reporter who had the gall to demand a timetable for engaging Iraq was also properly shut down. And the one who asked about A-Rod on steroids simply made of a fool of himself. Chris Matthews said the media did a great job, but I think that was in tribute to the two who asked their questions the way he would--six at a time while simultaneously answering two of them.

It wasn't an accident that Obama called on the Huffington Post, or that Ed Schultz was in the audience, or even that he did a couple of town meetings beforehand. And that's how Obama's is going to keep the corporate media honest: just like he did during his campaign, he'll concentrate more on talking directly to the people and leveling the playing field by re-defining what qualifies as national press.

But I'm not totally unsympathetic to their complaints--after eight years of President Bush, President Elmo would sound long-winded and excessively intellectual. It's just a matter of getting used to it, guys!

:headbang:
rocktivity
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:41 AM
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13. Yup. In a way, start making the news media irrelevant by talking to us directly.
Letting people make up their own minds instead of having corporate MSM process it.

It's a great strategy!
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:03 AM
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15. Both Chuck Todd and Brian Williams were poo-pooing BEFORE
it began. Todd is especially obnoxious, informing viewers that many Americans are now against the bill. Afterward he said it was too bad Obama wasn't this forceful when he first introduced the bill. He wasted a week by being nice.

Good gawd.
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