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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:43 AM
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Oh look!!!! AP's checking Obama's facts!!!! FACT CHECK: Examining Obama's job, pork claims!!!!!!
They're so on top of it!!!!!!!

A look at some of Obama's claims in Elkhart, Ind., and the news conference called to make his case to the largest possible audience:

OBAMA: "Not a single pet project," he told the news conference. "Not a single earmark."

THE FACTS: There are no "earmarks," as they are usually defined, inserted by lawmakers in the bill. Still, some of the projects bear the prime characteristics of pork — tailored to benefit specific interests or to have thinly disguised links to local projects.

For example, the latest version contains $2 billion for a clean-coal power plant with specifications matching one in Mattoon, Ill., $10 million for urban canals, $2 billion for manufacturing advanced batteries for hybrid cars, and $255 million for a polar icebreaker and other "priority procurements" by the Coast Guard.

Obama told his Elkhart audience that Indiana will benefit from work on "roads like U.S. 31 here in Indiana that Hoosiers count on." He added, "And I know that a new overpass downtown would make a big difference for businesses and families right here in Elkhart."

U.S. 31 is a north-south highway serving South Bend, 15 miles from Elkhart in the northern part of the state.


more "facts" here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090210/ap_on_go_pr_wh/fact_check_obama
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:44 AM
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1. wow, is that all they've got?
This pork is not a cow - although they both have four legs so let's pretend they're equal!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:45 AM
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2. Intrepid bunch, aren't they?
I wonder if those ol' debbil weapons of mass production have turned up in Iraq yet? Golly, fact checkin' is sooo hard!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:47 AM
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3. WOW!!! "Fact Checking!" I bet the AP is anxious to return to "fact checking"...
...after its eight-year sabbatical!

CorpMedia "fact checking" during Bush years => :boring:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:48 AM
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4. their definition of "pork" can be applied to all spending
"Tailored to benefit specific interests"?? NO SH*T!
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Paulaguyon Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:49 AM
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5. what a weak fact-check
Basically, there are no earmarks in the bill.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:51 AM
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6. There are no "earmarks," as they are usually defined, inserted by lawmakers in the bill
Okthanxbye.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:52 AM
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7. And yet if there weren't such details, the outrage would be, "All this MONEY and no blueprint...
..for spending it!"

"If we don't know where the money is going, how will we know it will create jobs?"

etc.

You can't win against the MSM, particularly Fournier's AP.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:14 AM
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8. Don't you just love that the 'Liberal Media' always....
Gives Republican Presidents a pass, gets burned, so then they make up for it with the Democratic Presidents?

Reagan - Bush: Pass, let's not dig too deep, or we might find out some sinister shit.

Clinton: Grill him for everything it's worth... What? He got a blow-job? OMG, he's the Anti-Christ!

Commander Idiot In Chief: Absolute PASS. Nothing to see here, move along.

Obama: We had better crawl up his ass with a microscope, because we know he is up to NO good.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:37 AM
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9. Have they checked the Repub talking points yet? Why, NO THEY HAVEN"T.
They just let Shelby and Pence and all of the other jackasses spout off endlessly without fact-checking their bullshit.

Why don't they do their jobs CONSISTENTLY. And where is the disclaimer about their own corporate conflict of interest?

Damn. They suck.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:25 AM
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10. 15 miles is what I consider my neck of the woods. n/t
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