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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:37 PM Original message |
Time to Scrap the Stimulus and Start Over |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. agreed - we need the house version and the hell with these repubs n/t |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Yes, and... |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. You know Obama will sign this piece of crap when it hits his desk... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I think you need to review, piece by piece, what's in the bill before labeling it. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. you're assuming I haven't? LINK |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Then looking at the multibillions targeted to low and middle income families and calling it trash |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. "low and middle income" |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. and aid to states too. n/t |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yes, exactly!! n/t |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. aid to states is not taken out. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. If you take ALL state aid... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. That's not true at all. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. 8 BILLION dollars for housing. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. $13,510,000,000 would be much better!! n/t |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. 25 Billion would be even better than that!! |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Sure it would... |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. Of course... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yesterday, I was wanting Obama to threaten to veto any compromise. Today.... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Yeah, those of us who are homeless because there isn't enough housing as it is... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I don't have a home either - living with friend. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Then I would think you'd have more sensitivity to those who are left uot. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. It's hit me as hard as anyone else. I just don't agree with you. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. Real nice... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I'm in the same boat - I've more than earned the right to be frank. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. There is a difference... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-11-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
74. "dick-waving " Your choice of language says it all about who you are. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. If that worked... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. They will be plenty of spending bills. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. We need it now!! n/t |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. We're GETTING it now. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Yeah, we're getting it alright n/t |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. You can't have it both ways - so which is it: |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. I want it done right... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. And... how does "scrapping and starting over" connect with "we need it now!" |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Once this bill passes... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Then clearly we don't "need it now!!" |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. When you flip-flop... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. I'm not flip-flopping, I'm QUOTING you |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. We need it done right... |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. And yes you are flip-floping... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. 5th recommend |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. too late |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. A little late now. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. "House and Senate are going to have to reconcile the differences" |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. YOU DO REALIZE THAT THEY CAN JUST PUT THAT IN ANOTHER BILL RIGHT? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. But they won't!! n/t |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. They won't? Isn't there a $3 trillion federal budget coming in the next few months? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I hope you're right... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. "you know who" has been saying this now for 7 weeks, in his columns and blogs |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. Don't say it. It draws the wrong crowd. n/t |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. Just pass this one and start working on a supplement. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. That is what... |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. What they should be doing is sending a dozen bills and make the GOP |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
17. you should have listened to President Obama last night.... |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Oh, I know it won't... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
21. school funding and health care need their own debate |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. I hope so. We're looking at a 6.8% cut to funding for FY 2010. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-11-09 01:47 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. That's why it was important... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
26. God forbid that we do anything to actually help the people on the bottom. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. If you read the bill, there's important aid to people hitting bottom - its just not glamorous. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Well, I said I don't know and we still have yet to see what makes it out of |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. We agree there. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. No Medicaid for unemployed... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Yes, dear "we need it now!!" That's what happens when you need something now. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. But the House had... |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
70. One question... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-11-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. How many deaths in that "not perfect"? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. the repukes have zero interest in helping Americans |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
52. inevitable |
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Still Sensible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
57. They should set aside the AMT fix, which will almost |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Yes, some common sense... |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
62. So much for change |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-10-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
65. Summary |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-11-09 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
72. K & R |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-11-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
73. House, Senate, both bills are grossly inadequate. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-11-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Nice simple fix, too bad simple seems beyond the ken... |
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