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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:05 PM
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Missouri House member apologizes for Civil War comment
JEFFERSON CITY | A Missouri House member apologizes for any offense caused when he referred to the Civil War as the “War of Northern Aggression.”

The comment from Bryan Stevenson came during debate Tuesday on a resolution urging federal leaders to oppose an abortion proposal that could overrule many state-level restrictions.

The Republican from the southwest Missouri town of Webb City said it would be the “greatest power grab by the federal government since the War of Northern Aggression.”

The remark prompted House member Don Calloway, a Democrat from St. Louis, to request an apology. Calloway, who is black, said the Civil War restored the union and freed the slaves and it’s inappropriate to call it “Northern aggression.”

more . . .

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1027076.html

Still fighting the Civil War in MO. And we wonder why McCain won this state?!
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:08 PM
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1. I say we call it

"The war of southern stupidity"
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:10 PM
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2. I think of it as the War That Has Never Ended
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 04:10 PM by proud2BlibKansan
especially in the minds of certain MO state reps :)
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:47 PM
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3. I hate these false "apologies."
He did not apologize for saying it, only that it caused "offense." Either the content of the statement is correct or it is not.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:48 PM
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4. And we wonder why McCain won this state?!
But he only won Missouri by less than 4,000 votes, proud2blib!

Missouri is purple and well on its way to turning blue.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:21 PM
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8. Oh I know
I just wasn't surprised Obama didn't take it.

Not trying to knock MO. Hell, I live in Kansas. Not much room to talk. But at least our crazies don't still fight the Civil War. Only abortion and evolution. LOL
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:52 PM
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17. Even though I would have preferred we won in MO, in a way I'm kind of glad:
I love it when these states lose their "bellwether" status, e.g. "no President has been elected without winning Missouri since" etc.

Well guess what? Now one has.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:12 PM
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20. Gives you something to work on next election
I agree :)
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:51 PM
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5. Thoughtcrime?
I could be wrong, but methinks that Calloway is a little thin-skinned about this. I've heard the Civil War referred to as the "War of Northern Aggression" all my life, but I don't pay it any mind because, well, Lincoln won.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:53 PM
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7. Revisionist history.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:23 PM
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9. There is a lot of racial tension in the MO state house
One African American rep told me one time it took courage for a black person to serve in MO.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:32 PM
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10. What does "Northern Aggression" mean to you?
It means to me the North just up and invaded the South for no reason. It is totally false and should be called to the attention of whomever uses such terminology. The South did not want to obey the Laws of the land and fired upon their fellow countrymen at Fort Sumpter. It was an act of Treason. It would better be called the War to squelch TREASON.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:37 PM
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12. General Robert E. Lee was an abolitionist who favored preserving the Union
The only reason he sided with the Confederacy is because he could not lead troops against his native Virginia.

Just as the North had its own share of scoundrels, the South had a few honorable and decent men on its side. Not many, perhaps, but Lee was more than the Confederacy deserved.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:52 PM
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6. doesn't surprise me
a lot of these state houses are filled to the brim with country bumpkins that aren't qualified to be a janitor
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:36 PM
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11. SW Missouri, of course, Ashcroft territory
Yeah, they're still fighting the Civil War down there. In fact it irks them no end that Missouri was officially part of the Union and they take every opportunity to distance themselves from that fact.
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:43 PM
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13. Live here, not born here....(MO.)
This does not surprise me in the least...this is a state where people can look at the letters "uri" and somehow pronounce that as "ruh"...

We are awash in idiots and bigots in this state and they simply cannot help themselves.
Once you get outside of Metro-St. Louis or Kansas City areas (and a very few isolated pockets of rational thought in other areas), you are left with a great number of barely literate morons, hyper-religionists and racist scumbags. Out-state Missouri is too often no place to be a non-white Christian male or a female of any kind...

Thankfully the tide is turning....Nixon as governor, McCaskill as current Junior Senator and a hell of a fight coming in 2010 for the bigot Bond's seat as well (Robin Carnahan should be formidable)....
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:52 PM
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16. Hey, thanks for proving the those born outside of Missouri can broad brush with the rest of them
I would imagine that our mix of idiots and bigots is no worse that many states, and probably better than many more. And if you're dismissing everything outside of St. Louis and KC, then you're missing one hell of a lot of good liberals.

Let's see, what's that blue spot in the middle of the state? Oh, yeah, Columbia and surrounding environs, probably one of the more liberal spots in the state and in the Midwest. There are also many other pockets of liberals and such throughout the state, you just have to know where to look.

Does that mean we're perfect, by no means. But neither are we the hell hole you're trying to portray. Perhaps you need to get out and about more.

Oh, and pronouncing "uri" as "ruh" is a dialectical oddity, but no worse than what I've heard in Boston or NYC.

But hey, carry on. We always need more out of state folks to make broad brush insults like yours:eyes:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:47 PM
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14. Missouri didn't even fight in the civil war.
At least not in any organized way. They just killed their cousins in the next town over.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:57 PM
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18. Umm, sorry but that's bullshit
There were a number of significant battles here in the state. Oh, and Missouri led the states in having the most battles fought on its soil. Not to mention that it was a brutal, violent, chaotic free for all.

The Eastern theater of the Civil War gets the most attention, which is justifiable up to a point. But that doesn't mean that nothing wasn't happening out in the West, and certainly doesn't merit your broad brush claim.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:06 PM
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19. You wrote
"it was a brutal, violent, chaotic free for all."

Which is essentially the same as what I wrote:
"At least not in any organized way. They just killed their cousins in the next town over."

The significant battles were fought mostly by troops from other states while Missourians spent the war killing each other.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:49 PM
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15. Did you see this thread of Tesha's about the 45 yr anniversary of the Civil Rights Act?
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:02 PM
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21. A website about Missouri that's interesting.
www.ozarkopathy.org

Details the corruption.


I have a friend who is a prosecutor who lives in Hillsboro. She was in a huge uproar a few years ago when she was forced to resign her judgeship (by the blacks) because she called someone "niggardly".

Some people can't read a dictionary. :grr:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:07 PM
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22. I'd like to take credit for that.
Even though the page is not finished (and everyone is welcome to add their own jokes) I will still take credit for spreading the Truthiness about the "Civil War."

http://www.wikiality.com/The_War_of_Northern_Aggression

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