There is simply no possible defense for police officers hitting a cuffed person in the face

[Stinky The Clown]

(Context: a video being shown on the cablenews today of two uniformed officers beating a cuffed homeless man.)

I can tolerate perhaps more police tactics than many who post here, but this is simply indefensible.

[LakeSamish706]

1. I just saw that as well, and agree totally.... These guys need to be gone now... n/t

[derby378]

2. Is there a link you can provide us?

Sickening.

[vaberella]

3. That's indefensible?! Did we forget the young Black male who was shot in the back on the BART?! n/t

[Stinky The Clown]

11. no

Why are you framing these two events as mutually exclusive?

[vaberella]

13. Far from it...

I actually found your terminology as mutually exclusive. I think they're both barbaric and sheds light on something that has been going in the US for decades...or at least since police was given so much power and influence. I found your statement making this so appaling that it's disgusting that has surpassed anything before it. I find that this is just another example of atrocious behaviour that is not the most disgusting I've heard or seen of police actions (since some have been fatal) but it's definitely not a little something.

[Stinky The Clown]

14. Thanks for applying your standards to me

I was talking about this one incident. YOU connected it to something that YOU find appalling. Okayfine. But in so doing, you ascribe to me a LACK of concern for the other incident.

Should I have mentioned that BART thing in this thread? Would that have satisfied your poutrage? Great. Then what about the person poutraged about something else.

This thread was a comment about one incident.

You could have cited the BART thing and made your statement about that. But no. You had to make it about ME.

Bite me.

[RJ Connors]

4. Sure there's a reason, some of them find it to be quite the sport. n/t

[VeraAgnes]

5. If the crook spits on ya.......

that would evoke a reactionary punch.....outherwise, I can't think of any other reason.

[screembloodymurder]

7. Actually, it wasn't a beating.

The cop got mad when he hurt his hand ... hitting him the first time.

[Incitatus]

9. If they can't control violent impulses, then they shouldn't be cops. nt

[Winterblues]

12. It may evoke it but doesn't justify it.

It would still be wrong and should be grounds for dismissal. and why would you automatically assume the person is a crook? No innocent until proved guilty with you I guess. Bush* doesn't think people are innocent until proved guilty either.

[peace13]

6. Police officers have become accustomed to hog tying their victims

before beating or tasing them. How else do you expect them to stay safe?

[Incitatus]

8. I'm really getting sick of these incidents.

Sooner or later a group of bystanders is going to see cops brutalizing a defenseless person and fuck those cops up. Maybe that's just wishful thinking, but I know what I would want to do if I saw that and I can't be the only one.

[Sequoia]

10. Say, that happened at the Bart Station in SF area

to Oscar Grant who was then shot in the back by the other cop who is now out on bail. We are all pretty steamed about it too.

[JFN1]

15. Striking a civilian

should be handled with the same gravity as shooting a civilian is handled. These cops need to be reigned in, and re-educated to the fact that being a cop is a PRIVILEGE, and that their duty as cops in no way justifies their casual use of force. Force should always be the last resort.

Cops should spend more time communicating; I have two cops in the family (now both retired), and in any given patrol shift, about 85% of a cop's time is uneventful. So cops should invest the time necessary to avoid violence, instead of acting like they are always in a hurry, or their time is more valuable than a person's front teeth, as their actions seem to indicate a belief that it is always easier just to knock a civilian around and arrest them for resisting than it is to spend any time speaking with them.