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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:04 PM
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Are the Right Wingers Lovers of Death?
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 12:08 PM by trthnd4jstc
We have our hawks also, but many Republicans, and Some Independents truly seem to love bringing about Death. They support military spending. They lie to us about Defending the Nation. Many of the military actions that our country has sponsored have only created more enemies for us, not decreased them. If War is Peace, then we should see a decrease in violence through our use of killing others.

We are seeing and internecine peace in Iraq, it is less violent that it was, but the resentments that will last for years have been bourne into the hearts of millions that we have affected by our latest National Security Policy of the Idiot Administration.

Now we need to find solutions for our problems. President Obama is working for our nation. The Republicans and Others have brought us into an economic crisis.

Part of this crisis is wrought by having the Military Industrial Complex drive our foreign policy. Killing people and occupying lands costs money and our reputation in the world.

Think about this. I will not sponsor violence against the innocents of our world, yet this intense belief in National Security, which includes the belief that there are acceptable losses with the killing of civilians, AKA collateral damage. Most people have a live and yet live attitude, yet our Foreign Policy is responsible for killing thousands of innocent people every year.

This is not OK. Does defense mean killing civilians. Can we defend our trade routes and borders sufficiently that we will kill nearly no innocent people. I think that we can for the most part.

We did not need to invade Iraq, and we should have either fully invaded Afghanistan with 200,000 to 400,000 Personnel, or simply went in and rounded up the Al Qaida Gang.

I believe that 9-11 was Bush's Buring of the Reichstadt. The lack of a plane at the Pentagon, and the 45 degree cuts on the Steel of Building 2, and the explosions that happened in the basements of both buildings before the planes even struck.

Al Qaida may have been the patsy.

Anyway, what does one call a person who acts against the national interests, and brings down his nation? A Traitor. George Bush is a Traitor.

George Bush and Dick Cheney killed more than 100 thousand innocent lives throughout Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan. This was a crime against Humanity!

The Right Wing is always harping about national security, but what they do in real life makes us all weaker, costs the budget billions of dollars, and ends the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

If the results of the Right Wing National Security Policy the death of hundreds of thousands of civilians not necessary for the defense of our nation why is it happening? Maybe the Right Wing Loves Killing Things?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:05 PM
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1. How can you even think this about the Pro-Life party?
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:08 PM
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3. Pro-life means not killing, not even a fly. Right?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:16 PM
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6. Well, they've never actually said what it means...
Use white phosphorus to murder a city full of innocent civilians? No problem.

Foster a toxic environment in which the poor and disadvantaged will suffer and die much sooner than the wealthy? No problem.

Terminate a horribly deformed fetus that resulted from incestuous rape? How can you condone such an unconscionable murder, for God's sake?!?!?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:08 PM
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2. That 100,000 estimate is wildly off.
It's closer to 1.2 million people, and growing. That's in addition to the 2 million people dead from a decade of sanctions, 500,0000 of them children, 4.5 million displaced, 300,000 widows and 500,000 orphans.

That also doesn't take into account the pollution of the Euphrates and the DU and unexploded ordnance littering the ground.

It's time to admit that all of this didn't happen under just Bush; Clinton helped this mess too. It's also time to admit that this is a war crime.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:10 PM
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4. Is there a web-site that has the Bush Damage Count on it? Can I trust Red Cross's numbers?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:15 PM
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5. Considering their embrace of fundamental Christianity, I suppose
it's easy to play hard and fast with the prospect of death when you have Jesus and the promise of eternal life thereafter.

Therefore, Death is not something to be feared, revered, etc. If anything, I think the rightwing plays recklessly with Death to keep themselves from being bored with their mediocrity.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:26 PM
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8. If you look at the names of the established rich, you can easily trace the history of their families
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 12:27 PM by trthnd4jstc
The fact is that millions for treacherous actions have led to the making of millions and billions for the so-called few at the top, there are millions of millionaires throughout the world, and here also. I saw something of Yahoo news that said people get selfish when they think about money. I did not find the Yahoo story, but this one, from John Tesh, may have been what Yahoo was reporting on?

http://www.tesh.com/ittrium/visit?path=A1x97x1y1xa5x1x76y1x2431x1x9by1x2436x1y5x552cx5x1

Let us create a new monetary system:

http://www.siue.edu/~rblain/timemoney.htm

I also saw this, which was fun to the read the responses answering the questioning, "What Would Happen If All the World's Money Disappeared?":

http://www.topics-mag.com/edition10/what-if-money.htm
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:25 PM
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7. Like EVERYTHING in their universe, it comes down to money. In what other business do
you create a product that exists to be destroyed on such a large and total scale?

Thus, they can steal tax dollars, funnel that money to themselves in the military industrial complex, and do so under the shield of "protecting the nation."

All the rest is rationalization of their greedy existence.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:28 PM
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9. I am an electrician, and I work to provide a durable product.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:31 PM
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10. Along those lines...
I was wondering what will be the ultimate cost of the 8 years of the * administration's policies to the American taxpayer
(including no-bid contracts, bank bailouts etc)...

$5 Trillion...$10 Trillion...
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:41 PM
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11. I believe the net profit from the No-bid contracts was no less than 20%
In competitive bidding the Low Bid may actually lose money, but often there is a net profit of 7% to 8% amongst some contractors that I know.

My dream is to compete with some of these companies, but maybe some of these companies will be indicted in the future?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 02:07 PM
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12. Other people's deaths, yes.
But they'll settle for other people's misery when they can't get death.
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