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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 02:08 AM
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I sure hope Big Dog is using his time very wisely with Poppy Bush
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 02:10 AM by steve2470
I like Bill Clinton. I voted both times for him. If Hillary is the candidate, I'll vote for her but I prefer someone more liberal. But, for god's sakes, he must get sickened hanging out with the Bushes.

Is he using that time wisely ? I know probably no one here really knows but if he isn't, he's wasting his time.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 02:11 AM
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1. if poppy and members of his immediate family are still alive
big dog has been jerking off
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:35 AM
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8. It's Bill's job to protect BushInc.

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/04/10/int04054.html

(...)

Robert Parry:

(...)

And the Democrats -- the accommodation Democrats -- decided that they would simply agree (about Iran-Contra machinations) that Oliver North did it, Reagan was just inattentive, and Bush really wasn’t involved. They kind of bought the cover story. And that cover story basically held for quite a while, until Lawrence Walsh was able to break through and find out that there had been this major cover-up, which doesn’t occur really until 1991 or so.

Another scandal breaking out in 1991 after the Persian Gulf War was known as Iraqgate. And Iraqgate was in a sense the opposite side of the coin from Iran-Contra because, while one part of the Reagan Administration was helping the Iranians in the mid-'80s, another part was helping the Iraqis, who were at war with the Iranians. Essentially the United States was playing both sides in providing sophisticated equipment, including material that could be used for weapons of mass destruction, to Saddam Hussein. Now this was also an embarrassing set of facts that George H.W. Bush did not want to have out. He had been calling Saddam Hussein worse than Hitler at that point. And so the idea that he had been secretly involved in a program in the 1980s to assist Saddam Hussein was information that they wanted to keep under board.

(...)

You also had, in the 1992 campaign, another scandal, which was directly involving George H.W. Bush -- it became known as Passportgate. Going into the fall of 1992, with Bill Clinton ahead, George H.W. Bush was rather desperate. They were looking for what they called a silver bullet to take out Bill Clinton. The outgrowth of this pressure was to search Bill Clinton’s passport file to see if there had been some possible letter denouncing his citizenship. That was the rumor. There was no such letter, but they found a tear in the corner of the passport file. And from that, the Bush Administration formulated a criminal referral to the FBI and then leaked it. The Senior Bush began using that to raise suggestions that he was unpatriotic. And Clinton’s numbers started to fall. It was a very effective dirty trick.

(...)

But after Clinton won in 1992, he and other winning Democrats basically decided to not help or shelve those investigations. At that point, we forget that Lawrence Walsh, the Independent Counsel who was a Republican, wanted to pursue George H.W. Bush because he had found out that George H.W. Bush had been withholding documents that had been long requested for the investigation. Bush also refused to submit to a second interview, which Walsh had postponed until after the '92 election, so Bush would not be distracted. But then after Bush got voted out, he issued pardons for six of the Iran-Contra defendants, which effectively crippled Walsh’s investigation.

Bush was allowed essentially to walk off into the sunset with his reputation intact-- when there was a potential from all four of these investigations to have implicated the Senior Bush in misconduct -- his alleged involvement in the October surprise, his involvement in Iran-Contra, his involvement in Iraqgate, and his involvement in the Passportgate affair. But Clinton and other Democrats felt that it was important to try not to stir things up, to see if they could work with the Republicans cooperatively and with the new Administration coming in. It turned out to be a gross misunderstanding of the situation.

(...)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 12:20 PM
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9. didn't Clinton also find massive amounts of missing money
when he took office, but declined to investigate because of presumed "scandal fatigue"?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 12:26 PM
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10. The deficit was way higher than reported - we heard back then that Greenspan
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 12:28 PM by blm
told Clinton that BCCI could not be further scrutinized because the world economy would collapse. Many of us supported that at the time and always gave Clinton the space on that - BUT, after we ended up with Bush2 and 9-11 attacks? No way.

Plus, Clinton insulted those of us who kept that faith in him for so long by not even MENTIONING the word BCCI or any of its attending matters in his book. So he made the decision to side with Poppy Bush's secrecy and privilege over sharing CRUCIAL information with voting citizens.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 02:39 AM
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2. Peeing on his leg would be the proper canine response.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 02:40 AM
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3. It's obvious Poppy prefers Clinton's company to his son's.
No surprise there.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 03:39 AM
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4. So how often is he hanging out with the poppey bush?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:49 AM
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5. hangin' wit' real power is something bill always wanted to do
clinton has always been about political opportunism and social climbing.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:56 AM
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7. How could any person of no matter how low an estate be accused
of climbing when it comes to the wretched Bush Crime Family?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:09 AM
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6. Please let us know what percentage of his time is spent with Bush the Smarter.
And what else Mr Clinton has been up to.
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