Quit dancing around salary caps and bonus caps and whatever caps

[.... callchet ....]

They are afraid to raise taxes because they will have to pay more taxes too.

[MercutioATC]

1. OK!!! I get the idea!!!

Did we really need four threads on this???

[BlooInBloo]

3. It's a lot more than that, dude. She/he has been doing it at least for days.

[tekisui]

5. Ambiguous postings that must lead to preconceived end, yet never do.

At which point outrage at lack of liberals on a "democrat" board are declared.

It's the MO of the OP.

[BlooInBloo]

7. Yup. She/he has done a 1/2 decent job of sticking around, I must say.

[.... callchet ....]

19. And consistently more concerned with human rights and the economy

than taking cheap shots.

[.... callchet ....]

28. And by the way,

there is no ambiguity in a very singular theme of raising taxes.

[.... callchet ....]

6. Nobody is getting it. Nobody is talking about taxes.

Why aren't they talking about raising taxes. Why aren't you talking about raising taxes ? Let them make all the money they want to and raise the taxes. Then they will work harder to make more money and pay more taxes.

[MercutioATC]

10. And you think that 4 new threads in 10 minutes will change that?

Geez, I can see you're excited about this but give it a rest.

[.... callchet ....]

15. Why are you worried about how many threads ?

Worry about why they are not taxing all the things that everyone is complaining about. Is it wrong to talk about raising taxes instead of complaining about high salaries?

[MercutioATC]

18. Server space and load, for one...

...but mostly, it's annoying to read the SAME thread topic over and over.

I don't agree with your idea because the only legislated limits on CEO salaries should be for those companies receiving taxpayer dollars. Otherwise, it should be a matter decided by a company's board...who have to answer to the shareholders.

...and I don't agree with taxing 95% of ANY amount. Punitive taxation is wrong.

[.... callchet ....]

20. Its not punitive taxation.

its paying the bills by those who have gained the most from the country.

[MercutioATC]

21. Our opinions differ.

I believe that 95% is punitive and I see no need for it.

I also have no problem with a CEO making $50M/year if the shareholders agree and the company is getting no taxpayer money.

[.... callchet ....]

24. It was 94% in 1944 and 1945.

[MercutioATC]

26. So?

I still believe it's excessive and unnecessary.

[.... callchet ....]

27. What about raising taxes for Universal health care?

What about raising taxes for free college education? What about raising taxes for energy jobs programs ? What about raising taxes to pay the national debt ? They keep saying that our children and grand children and their children are going to have to pay for this. Pay for it now. Raise taxes.

[MercutioATC]

29. What you suggest is akin to performing an orchestral piece with only a cowbell.

Raising taxes is just one of the tools we have available to foster long-term security. Raising them too much can have detrimental effects.

[.... callchet ....]

30. "Raising them too much can have detrimental effects"

Wrong answer. Really, why would you say that? Every tax increase has preceded an economy surge. Every decrease has led to a recession.

[MercutioATC]

31. There comes a point where excessive taxes are a disincentive to earning.

Hell, I'm retiring in seven years and I'm moving to Costa Rica...in part, to minimize my tax burden.

People with more money and, therefore, more mobility can easily do the same.


Consider one of the main problems with welfare. Due to the income cutoffs for benefits, people are sometimes penalized for working. If they don't work, they can get by. If they work at all, they lose more benefits than their income makes up for. Excessive taxation can lead to the same thing...a disincentive to earn.

There's absolutely no reason to soak the wealthy. Raising the top brackets slightly and adjusting some deductions would be sufficient.

[.... callchet ....]

32. Your are right. Welfare benefits should be scaled.

I know a lot of people at that line. It is a shame that low income people bear the brunt of all societies short comings. Just like raising gas prices to curb consumption is disastrous to poor people. THey can barely get by and then whamoo, they are spending more on gas than on their kids to help clean air for somebody else's kids. For sure their are inequities. I am sure they were aware of the welfare cutoff problem, but left it to generate hostility to-wards recipients. Unfortunately, the only solution is to accept the inequities.

[SammyWinstonJack]

33. And lowering taxes on those who didn't need the extra $$$ has had detrimental effects.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

12. "They" make a lot of money because "they" work hard?

Are you daft?

[BlooInBloo]

2. According to you, we're all doomed anyway - so what do you care?

[.... callchet ....]

9. According to me, there is a lot of work to be done and nobody

is talking about what to do. It has to be the New Deal again and raise taxes tomorrow. There is doom and gloom if nobody does anything.

[tekisui]

4. Could you put it all in one thread?

:eyes:

[.... callchet ....]

11. It doesn't make any difference if it is one thread or more

nobody seems to care. They talk about corporate greed and salary caps. WHy don't they talk about taxing it. Why don't you talk about taxing it. Are you in a high bracket?

[MercutioATC]

13. The multiple postings are making me care even less.

That's how a forum works. You post a thread and if people are interested, they'll reply.

If not, there's no point in posting it over and over and over again.

[tekisui]

14. !

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Me in a high bracket! I am for taxing 100% over $3 million a year. 95% over a million is fine. But, spamming the board with sentence fragments does little good.

[.... callchet ....]

16. Spamming. Are you watching or listening to the news?

All the talk is about capping salaries and bonuses and everybody is afraid to say raise their taxes. Raise their taxes. They are picking individual actions because they don't want to raise their own taxes.

[tekisui]

17. Spamming:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5034682

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5034670

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5034644

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5034633

One post every two minutes, saying the same thing.

[.... callchet ....]

22. You have called attention to it, but what is wrong with it?

Seriously , what is wrong with it ? I am absolutely furious about all the prancing and dancing around bonuses and caps and nobody will say raise taxes. I wish more attention would be paid raising taxes.

[tekisui]

23. You don't get much response here because most agree.

Raise taxes on the highest income bracket. It's a no-brainer. One post would do it.

[.... callchet ....]

25. Most would agree!

There needs to be a march on Washington to let The President know that most agree.

[tekisui]

8. Let me be the first to say---Free Higher Education For Everyone. The Dumb Included.